Wizard dps vs melee in groups?

[Lazortag]

The difference in DPS is extremely noticeable between rogues/monks and wizards (in exp groups). I'll group with pretty much any class combination since I'm not picky, but I would take a rogue over a wizard any day in my groups.

[godbox]

part of the issue is the insane twink lvl on 99 im surprised when a rogue doesnt have ragebringer post lvl 20 now and shocked when a monk doesnt have rbg/rbb fungi and adam/kd

[Nagash]

Comes Velious, show me a raid targeting giants or dragons turning down a wizard and I'll show you a bunch of fools.

[Flunklesnarkin]

wizards can group..


aoe burn?? not sure why more people don't do that in everquest


guess timing 4 or 5 aoe's can be tough stuff though >_>

[Splorf22]

Well on raids the math changes entirely, especially with Kunark mobs and their 32000 hp. Lure of Ice is 825 damage/320 mana/4.5 second cast time, which works out to 8000 damage in under a minute - 140 dps, and substantially more than any melee can put out even with discs. And Wizards are also extremely useful for mobilizing, and simply necessary for ports up to Sky/Hate.

Its just for XP groups that they suck. It used to be that Wizards could level up efficiently in AOE groups, but with the unstunnable wurms if you want to hit 60, you better be prepared to quad kite raptors . . . a lot.

Personally I tried a twink wizard, and just found them to be incredibly boring. Nuke/afk 3 minutes/repeat.

[bulbousaur]

Seb/HS keys aren't soulbound?

[Rais]

Originally Posted by bulbousaur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seb/HS keys aren't soulbound?

Keys are soul bound. In Kunark keys weren't soul bound. It made Seb, HS and Vp even harder than it was. That forced groups to be with a evacer most of the time. Thus it included Druids and Wizards, and dragged VP on for weeks on first kills, and not just 1 night.

[clacbec]

hmm ? a thread about Wiz ? what about a thread about gnomes ? a thread about people talking, a thread about slackers Etc .. what a LOL
G'

[Grozmok]

Yeah, Wizards are totally useful. Not going to argue that. I thought we were just talking melee DPS vs. wizzy DPS, though?

Also, being able to blast mobs that run/gate is super useful as well. It's a form of crowd control, really.

[Broot]

Yea, that's true, if we talk about ONLY dps, then Wizards don't add up well. Maybe with C2, epic buff regen and Bard song they will be uber- but that's not realistic.

It's narrow sighted to only talk about DPS so I wanted to bring up the CC / insurance roles that a Wizard also brings in some depth.

But like Groz mentioned earlier - play what you think is cool in your heart of hearts. Don't let the min / maxxers get ya down [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]