Problems with this server from a new players perspective

[Harrison]

No one cares what you think, nobody.

[Vile]

I called more than half of these issues 1 week after server launch... it's all good. Don't roll a melee.. and grind 10 hours a day and join Nihilum and you win.

[Amelinda]

Originally Posted by mizin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2) Lack of a global chat system. While this has been said many, many, many, many times before its something I'll repeat with my own reasons. As I type this there is currently around 70 players on the server. Of those 70 players 0 of them are on my friends list, 0 of them are in my zone, and 0 of them are in my guild. This leaves me with no one to even casually chat with at 2:30 am.

This is being discussed between Rogean, Nilbog and I. I make no promises but i will tell you there was active discussion of this yesterday. Believe me when I tell you that it's not going to be an unlimited free for all. If it becomes a headache for the staff we will just shut it down. This means you people have to act like humans NOT a bunch of bratty 3rd graders.

Originally Posted by mizin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

3) Exp. As much as you'd like to believe people came to this server and they want to enjoy the quest, the grind, the journey, or whatever you'd like to refer to it as... that is not the case. Everyone should be on this server for one reason and the majority of us are. We want PvP and we want lots of it. Want to "enjoy the game, and the grind"? Go to the blue server. You can PvE your heart out with a bigger player base and more options. WE WANT PVP.

I do not believe 10x experience is the solution. I do however believe an increase in experience is. There is a few ways to do this that I could see potentially working. Lower level experience needs to be boosted more. Pre 30 or 35 should be upped from the 100% it is at now to possibly 200-250%. This increase in the lower levels will help us get up to where the majority of the player base already is in a faster manner. This increase will also be huge for melee characters who already have a rough time earning experience alone due to the lack of population.

Getting us to level 30-35 is beneficial in quite a few ways. The first being that mid level pvp is arguably the best pvp. It will also put the newer players closer to the larger player base giving them more of an option on who to play with and what zones to go to.

It may encourage current/old/new players to roll a character here due to the easier leveling and make things like dieing/getting pked seem less forgiving.
I believe post 35 exp is currently fine. I Believe SOME effort needs to be put in if you expect to get to 50 with the rest of us and 35-50 will be just that. A PvP grind. The only difference is you'll have more players to group with and more to PvP with.

I'm not sure that this solution is something that is actually do able however, another solution I could potentially see is "hot zones". zones all through a certain level group that have a bigger exp bonus. Examples would be crushbone, unrest, oasis, permafrost, lguk. These hot zones would be great not only for the increased experience, but would also promote more low to mid level pvp due to the increase of population in said zones.

In the end the majority of us are here to PvP, not to grind out 50 levels again while getting pk raped. We want to have fun and in order to do that we need to have people to play with and talk to. The lower level exp boost, and the global chat will give us both of those things, further encouraging new players to join this server. This is just my 2cents and I really hope I can get non troll feedback on this. Thanks for reading and see you at 50!

in no particular order:

1 exp rate is already increased at lower levels. You have a 200% XP rate at level 1. at level 50 you have a 100% XP Rate. so there is already an xp boost, it's scaled.

2. There can be PVP at all levels. You don't have to only PVP at max level. This is not Call of Duty with EQ Characters.

fairly srue there are already Zone Experience modifiers but I'm not a dev. I can't swear to it.

[Rydar]

Originally Posted by Amelinda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Believe me when I tell you that it's not going to be an unlimited free for all. If it becomes a headache for the staff we will just shut it down. This means you people have to act like humans NOT a bunch of bratty 3rd graders.



in no particular order:

1 exp rate is already increased at lower levels. You have a 200% XP rate at level 1. at level 50 you have a 100% XP Rate. so there is already an xp boost, it's scaled.
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Look at the culture on the forums..and you think global /ooc will be better?? Please lets not ruin in game EQ the same way these forums have been ruined.

2. I hope your figures on the xp bonus rate are wrong, because as I recall them being explained its 100 percent xp bonus at lvl 1 that slowly decays up to zero precent bonus at lvl 50. I REALLY hope its not 100 percent still at level 50 because that is tottaly out of line with classic EQ.

[Zallar]

I'm looking forward to Global OOC. If it's regulated as promised it will provide an easy way to remove the trolls from the server instead of just the forums.

[Tavrin]

Originally Posted by Rydar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look at the culture on the forums..and you think global /ooc will be better?? Please lets not ruin in game EQ the same way these forums have been ruined.

2. I hope your figures on the xp bonus rate are wrong, because as I recall them being explained its 100 percent xp bonus at lvl 1 that slowly decays up to zero precent bonus at lvl 50. I REALLY hope its not 100 percent still at level 50 because that is tottaly out of line with classic EQ.

it's not +100% at 50, 100% in her example is normal 'classic' xp.

At lvl 1 you get 2x xp per mob, and then slowly less as you level.

The whole concept of increasing xp is just wagging the dog at this point. The need for increased xp is due to lack of population, increasing xp won't drastically increase population; but it will be a band-aid to prevent new players from leaving.

The blue server is a good example, they have a classic XP rate and a very nice sized population.

I'm absolutely for a temporary increase in xp rate, as it will encourage the few new players we get to stick around, but it's still a bandaid until the real causes of why players quit is analyzed and corrected.

[mizin]

Originally Posted by Amelinda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is being discussed between Rogean, Nilbog and I. I make no promises but i will tell you there was active discussion of this yesterday. Believe me when I tell you that it's not going to be an unlimited free for all. If it becomes a headache for the staff we will just shut it down. This means you people have to act like humans NOT a bunch of bratty 3rd graders.



in no particular order:

1 exp rate is already increased at lower levels. You have a 200% XP rate at level 1. at level 50 you have a 100% XP Rate. so there is already an xp boost, it's scaled.

2. There can be PVP at all levels. You don't have to only PVP at max level. This is not Call of Duty with EQ Characters.

fairly srue there are already Zone Experience modifiers but I'm not a dev. I can't swear to it.

I'm glad to hear you are all discussing the global ooc.. I hope it turns out well and useful to all of us. In regards to the exp you say PvP can be done at all levels. True. What you're not realizing is the SEVERE lack of player base for these other levels. I can count the names of everyone I've ever seen within PvP range. Now when i do see them I cant PvP becasue id rather group. You cant PvP at lower levels in most scenarios becasue there is no player base. When I see someone within my level its either ok, I PvP him or I group with him and actually get some experience. 9/10 times your gonna choose the group because it might be a day or two before you can get another.

The lack of players and slower low levels are actually preventing low level PvP from my perspective. You choose to either PvP with the only person you've run into who you could potentially group with, or to group with him and get exp. This is a perfect example why low level PvP isnt variable for a decent amount of players ESPECIALLY any melee.

Anyone arguing that an experience boost isn't need is probably already level 50 on this server with a ton of friends who can help out his freshly rolled alt. Keeping low level experience the way it is is only crippling the new players rather than ones who are already here. If you already have your 50 chances are you've twinked out your alt and have a friend power leveling him. So the lack of player base and exp is easily made up for through that.

[SearyxTZ]

If you came here to PvP, you will just be disappointed that all you actually get is a 200+ hour grinding up to 42 by yourself prerequisite.

I've spent 100+ hours playing up to 33 and maybe 2 hours of that pvping (not for lack of willingness - there just aren't enough players).

On VZTZ this was why the XP rate was accelerated while the itemization treadmill was left untouched. It kept players within range of eachother.

[Zereh]

Originally Posted by Amelinda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1 exp rate is already increased at lower levels. You have a 200% XP rate at level 1. at level 50 you have a 100% XP Rate. so there is already an xp boost, it's scaled.

Close, but off by 100%:

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PvP/Red Server

• EXP Bonus scaling has been added. The Bonus will scale from 100% at Level 1 to 0% at Level 50. (100 - (Level * 2)).

[Ames V1.013]

Originally Posted by Zereh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Close, but off by 100%:

lol