YT isn't the solution

[Tassador]

YT will bring atleast 50 players back.

[Vile]

Originally Posted by Tassador [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

YT will bring atleast 50 players back.

Maybe 5 people.

YT isn't going to bring back the casual players that really want to play.

[Rydar]

Thankfully this server is more about EQ as a whole , with PvP on the side to add to it.

If the EQ population here was naivie and noob and fresh, then maybe we could have those other things. But its not, its all vetran and/or jaded, and as such we must have more hard coded soulutions to maintain a classic atmosphere here.

Think about it, if 99.9 percent of all EQ players in 1999 were griefin Darwoths... would we of had the fun/fond memories of it? Hell no.

No to YT and global OOC. Those things cater and encourage the wrong element and attitude here. Simple as that.

Join the <global OOC> guild if you want global OOC. Or join the mIRC channel for red99. And/or post screenshots of your kills in the RnF section here.

PROBLEM SOLVED.

We dont need a ingame "solution" that will drive away the remaining mature players.

[Vile]

Originally Posted by Rydar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We dont need a ingame "solution" that will drive away the remaining mature players.

Have fun with the "remaining" players.

[Sirken]

Lazor i think i agree with you 100%. people raced to 50 completely forgetting that just getting to 50 is a HUGE part of the game. you are suppose to enjoy the grind to get there. its like picking up a book, and skipping to the last chapter, then complaining the book sucks.

the biggest two problems to the server are not dumb shit like global ooc or yt. the biggest two are 1) players griefing other players. all your guys' dumb fucking training, exploiting, BC and CC, and other grief kills the population MUCH faster than any staff decisions have. and 2) another huge problem is that it seems a lot of you aren't here to play EQ. most of you are here to play Call of Duty with EQ toons.


until those two things change, nothing the staff can do will help the pop.

[kazroth]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

until those two things change, nothing the staff can do will help the pop.

I accept your quest, sir! Level 11 Shaman, enjoying the "journey" so far! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Saw some corpse camping and AFK ganking goin' on today, but I have high hopes for the future!

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lazor i think i agree with you 100%. people raced to 50 completely forgetting that just getting to 50 is a HUGE part of the game. you are suppose to enjoy the grind to get there. its like picking up a book, and skipping to the last chapter, then complaining the book sucks.

the biggest two problems to the server are not dumb shit like global ooc or yt. the biggest two are 1) players griefing other players. all your guys' dumb fucking training, exploiting, BC and CC, and other grief kills the population MUCH faster than any staff decisions have. and 2) another huge problem is that it seems a lot of you aren't here to play EQ. most of you are here to play Call of Duty with EQ toons.


until those two things change, nothing the staff can do will help the pop.

Reading the whole book filled with typos and parts of the book only certain people are allowed to read. Getting to the end of the book realizing it and putting the book down.

Fixed it for ya.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Reading the whole book filled with typos and parts of the book only certain people are allowed to read. Getting to the end of the book realizing it and putting the book down.

Fixed it for ya.

no.

i dont thing you quite grasped my analogy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Rydar]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lazor i think i agree with you 100%. people raced to 50 completely forgetting that just getting to 50 is a HUGE part of the game. you are suppose to enjoy the grind to get there. its like picking up a book, and skipping to the last chapter, then complaining the book sucks.

the biggest two problems to the server are not dumb shit like global ooc or yt. the biggest two are 1) players griefing other players. all your guys' dumb fucking training, exploiting, BC and CC, and other grief kills the population MUCH faster than any staff decisions have. and 2) another huge problem is that it seems a lot of you aren't here to play EQ. most of you are here to play Call of Duty with EQ toons.


until those two things change, nothing the staff can do will help the pop.

The Truth.

I'm glad the staff sees it this way too.

[loserofgame]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lazor i think i agree with you 100%. people raced to 50 completely forgetting that just getting to 50 is a HUGE part of the game. you are suppose to enjoy the grind to get there. its like picking up a book, and skipping to the last chapter, then complaining the book sucks.

the biggest two problems to the server are not dumb shit like global ooc or yt. the biggest two are 1) players griefing other players. all your guys' dumb fucking training, exploiting, BC and CC, and other grief kills the population MUCH faster than any staff decisions have. and 2) another huge problem is that it seems a lot of you aren't here to play EQ. most of you are here to play Call of Duty with EQ toons.


until those two things change, nothing the staff can do will help the pop.

Sorry, but no.

There aren't simply two 'biggest problems to the server'. There are a great deal of issues, many of which have been outlined very clearly and eloquently by posters from all sides, and players of all guilds, which is unfortunately lost in this ocean of flames and tears.

But to respond to your points:

1) Players griefing other players is a classic, and iconic, aspect of EQ PvP. I agree that exploiting is wrong. But training, bind camping, corpse camping, and other griefs are the entire challenge(and a lot of the intrigue) of playing on a Red server.

2) People who want to play Call of Duty are already playing Call of Duty. People are here to play EQ PvP, which many players are unable to do considering active PvP is heavily restricted by staff.

People who want to enjoy the regular, unimpeded journey to 50 should play on Blue instead, and by and large do. Some of those players also play on Red, which is fine. But it should not be expected that players should conduct themselves on Red as they would on Blue.

Grief does not kill a population that has come here to grief and be griefed, which anyone who has ever played on a live EQ PvP server should absolutely expect.

Rules do.