The XP deal

[Vladigan]

You guys need to go to D.C. would fit in good. I've been reading these forums for amusement for many weeks... I called it way back once the levels started to spread out that this server was doomed unless change was made.... Now FINALLY after the population has ALREADY faltered, I start seeing this call to arms... LOL

Let me save everyone a lot of work, its too late. even IF, things change and the fairy wand is waved, the people that bailed out a long time ago are not coming back....

Might as well enjoy the classic experience while it lasts, I think it was a great thing while it lasted, I enjoyed the nostalgia but I saw the doom of this from the beginning... Best of luck to you all!! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ninja]

Originally Posted by FormerlyAMonk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

***NOBODY*** in their right mind would start a warrior rogue or monk, let alone a fucking bard ranger sk or pally on Red99 right now.

I am in my right mind and started my rogue a week ago.

[Steaks]

Originally Posted by Ninja [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am in my right mind and started my rogue a week ago.

something tells me you are 50 and hardcore

were talking about casuals here

[Ninja]

Originally Posted by Steaks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

something tells me you are 50 and hardcore

were talking about casuals here

donttrollmebro

[Toehammer]

Originally Posted by Ninja [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am in my right mind and started my rogue a week ago.

Originally Posted by Ninja [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm 27, no exp boost please.

Just as P99 had a low pop the first few months R99 will as well.

Also PvP servers always have less population then blue servers, there are no surprises here.

I like a lot of what you say Ninja because you don't advocate EZ mode for EQ, but it is obvious that you are NOT casual, just a late comer. The problem with Red99 has NOTHING to do with the hardcore players (who put in ridiculous hours like yourself), it is the LACK of non-hardcore, casual players. Sure, if people want a server with 30 <Guild Lame 1> and 30 <Guild Lame 2> then that is what this server is heading for in a couple months. If that is what the top 50-100 play-timers want, they will get it. I am sure you will ding 50 within the next few weeks, if you are 27 already after one week, and join one of those guilds.

FormerlyAMonk is unfortunately right, solo classes will dominate the server (they already do) in a few months. That blows.

The best solution to this whole problem has already been proposed, make 1-30 way faster, maybe 2x (even more is fine) exp I dunno, then distribute that over levels 30-50 so it takes the same total exp to hit 50, so the uber-lvl-50-poopsockers don't wine, and new players gain some vested interest and get hooked to the server. Also, if level 50s whine, they can stfu, because now they will have more players to PvP and grief within range, which is all they seem to do; just take a look at the RnF forum... morons abound.

Also, I am a bit confused as to the reason behind speeding up the timeline... only encourages poopsocking, powerleveling, and twinking. All detrimental to a PvP server. Server population is the biggest problem. We could have fixed it with guard assist the first night, or maybe a 1-20 exp bonus. I don't think the server will ever be "doomed" because there are already a significant number of level 50s, and they are in too deep to quit now, but imagine what it could be, over 200 lvl 50s... that would be some super fun EQ PvP... 4 guilds instead of 2. Imagine Planar content with 4 guilds warring it out... or just 2... take your pick.

Need to fix exp asap... simple fix to a big problem.

[Doublestep]

definitely cannot play hybrid at current xp rate

fix pls

[Aprisle]

Originally Posted by kprobe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The server population has been dropping, for various reasons, but this is causing a negative change for a lot of people. Let's discuss a way to encourage population.

I'm seeing both sides of the camp.

We want it hard, but we also want the people to experience the competition. We want classic experience, but nearly everyone is an expert at everything in the game. Where do we strike the balance?

Up until now I've seen people handle it in two ways: One, slowly but surely level up, shrug the inconsistencies. Two, exploit or use a sanctioned advantage to power through: (repeat quests (mail 1-5), swords, wands, bard AE kiting (8+ hard, 18+ easy).

What it should be: people grouping. EQ has always been about grouping, but many classes solo so effectively they reject grouping where they think they are losing the time advantage.


Suggestion: Raise group xp bonus only, but significantly.

Desired reaction: People group up more, and expect to do so because of the lucrative bonus.

Side-effects: Without changing some tactic mechanisms, you'll probably have a fair few bard kite PL groups where the rest of the group snoozes. Would encourage group-only classes such as warriors/rogs, classes critically missed currently.


Disclosure: I've played a bard on P99, due to obvious advantages I've used bard kiting as my method (20-40 mob kites yield 1-2.5 yellow in 15min drop to drop), though would prefer regular grouped experience to bring the PvP in all ranges, its the journey that counts (10ish+ IMHO, before that its boring for a lot of classes).

TL,DR:
Suggestion: Increase group xp bonus significantly to encourage classical EQ vision and critically, population increase.

I agree I think this would greatly help the community. I do believe this would help increase the population and either way ultimately lead to more groups, which would make it significantly more fun for everybody and all classes would be able to XP with more groups going on.

[jrwriter]

1 to 10 takes way more then 15 hours

[Aprisle]

To fil;ter the side effect you could just make it not apply the xp bonus if a certain amount of mobs die within same time of each other. That could help

[Steaks]

yall have stupid theories and dumbass comments , what the fuck is this thread even about


Read my post called the solution , ive found it