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Old 12-27-2011, 07:09 PM
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It's also worth noting bubonic plague is carried in force in Western US by fleas, really nothing you can do but get y. pestis vaccinated now and hope for the best later though imo. If it comes down to hunting you will be exposed to plague fleas.
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Old 12-27-2011, 07:05 PM
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A solar still is another way to eek water out of a relatively dry environment. The water is as clean as the tarp used to garner it.
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Old 12-27-2011, 07:08 PM
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Maybe I shouldn't have continued to use your incorrect comprehension of the terminology to make my point easier for you to understand, but you don't "attenuate" plants, you attenuate virii, and iodine, while it can render some virii impotent (you can't kill a virus since it isn't a living organism), isn't a vaccine. Heat can also destroy virus particles. Heat is not a vaccine either.
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Maybe I shouldn't have continued to use your incorrect comprehension of the terminology to make my point easier for you to understand, but you don't "attenuate" plants, you attenuate virii, and iodine, while it can render some virii impotent (you can't kill a virus since it isn't a living organism), isn't a vaccine. Heat can also destroy virus particles. Heat is not a vaccine either.
what in the name of fuck are you on about
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Old 12-27-2011, 07:20 PM
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You don't attenuate virii, you attenuate pathogens. Bacterial pathogens are going to be your primary concern in this case.

step 1: select for known pathogens in local water supply
step 2: cultivate
step 3: attenuate with iodine
step 4: administer with adjuvant to human

I'm sorry we aren't communicating well, but your apparent assumption that i'm spouting absolute gibberish instead of making some attempt to understand is something I'm not going to be able to reconcile with you.
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Old 12-27-2011, 07:31 PM
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You don't attenuate virii, you attenuate pathogens.
This is how I know you're just regurgitating things from wikipedia with no true comprehension. The pathogen that you attenuate is a virus. You don't attenuate a bacteria, the body can kill bacteria whether they're live or dead. The only thing that is or has ever been necessary to "attenuate" is a virus, so the body can develop an immunity to it before it gains access to the human's DNA.

This is because bacterial infections are things that can be killed, and once killed, are gone. A virus incorporates its RNA into human DNA, and remains forever.

You'll find remnants of viral DNA in the genome of every species.
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Old 12-27-2011, 07:55 PM
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The only thing that is or has ever been necessary to "attenuate" is a virus, so the body can develop an immunity to it before it gains access to the human's DNA.
10/10 i got played
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Old 12-27-2011, 07:16 PM
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Stop using wikipedia to pretend you have some grasp of biology.

If you knew anything about trophism, you'd know that fleas do not bite humans unless their native food source - rodents in this case - is extinct in the immediate environment (if no animals they would live on are around to live on, and they would otherwise starve).

Humans don't get the plague from fleas. They get it from the rodents they live on.
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Old 12-27-2011, 07:22 PM
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If you knew anything about trophism, you'd know that fleas do not bite humans unless their native food source - rodents in this case - is extinct in the immediate environment (if no animals they would live on are around to live on, and they would otherwise starve).

Humans don't get the plague from fleas. They get it from the rodents they live on.
gee i wonder how this situation might arise when you have a dead rodent in your hand. ps I'm a molecular biologist, I was just directing you to the wiki to remind you that you don't put vaccines in your food.
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They would lose any battle just so they could cry about their extremely minor injuries in front of a camera, to further their victim image.
Posted by a guy who ragequit the server like a petulant child and then promptly changed his avatar to Eddard Stark as a testament to his massive, pathological victim/martyr complex.
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