Dirty Hippies Whining For A Free Lunch

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Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

which is precisely the problem.

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is this where you wanna be when baby Jesus comes back?

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Originally Posted by Amelinda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

why are you starting all of these effing political threads? why are there so many political discussions going on - this isn't a political discussion board. i'm just curious as to why. i don't really care. but tbh i don't read the threads because all they turn out to be are a bunch of kids aged 18-26 who seem to have been brought up privlege who are stuck on the far conservative side and think everyone who receives wellfare should be put to death or something similar. it's depressing to read and you will never change their closed minds.

I don't understand people who think that way. I especially don't understand Christians...oh i'm sorry "Christians" who are against any sort of program that helps underprivleged people.

hbb there are like two people on these forums who have a remotely humanitarian leaning it seems sostarting these threads doesn't generate 'fun discussion' so much as it causes rage (at least in me) :P

you have to understand. I believe in helping out people who are in a bad place no matter what the reason they are there. i love them where they are at and hope that encourages them to improve and grow. *shrug*

Amelinda i have disturbing news.
Im a conservative

[Ssleeve]

Originally Posted by Amelinda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

they turn out to be are a bunch of kids aged 18-26 who seem to have been brought up privlege who are stuck on the far conservative side and think everyone who receives wellfare should be put to death or something similar. it's depressing to read and you will never change their closed minds.

i love them where they are at and hope that encourages them to improve and grow. *shrug*

I grew up in poverty with a drug-addict mother and imprisoned father (he is serving life).

I still dislike people who live off of welfare or disability (which is far too easy to attain for minor conditions, if you have serious medical issues I'm not talking to you) for more then a few months (everyone I grew up around was and still is).

Too many people get comfortable and just stop attempting to get out of the situation and adapt to living a government enabled life in poverty.

Reminds me of parents who need to kick out their lazy young adult children to force them to grow up tbh.

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Originally Posted by Ssleeve [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I grew up in poverty with a drug-addict mother and imprisoned father (he is serving life).

I still dislike people who live off of welfare or disability (which is far too easy to attain for minor conditions, if you have serious medical issues I'm not talking to you) for more then a few months (everyone I grew up around was and still is).

Too many people get comfortable and just stop attempting to get out of the situation and adapt to living a government enabled life in poverty.

Reminds me of parents who need to kick out their lazy young adult children to force them to grow up tbh.

This is my view, as well.... the problem is the blanket accusations and blind hatred that many people have concerning the general socioeconomic landscape.

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this is why people despise people on welfare

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow...161252749.html

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Originally Posted by Aadill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is my view, as well.... the problem is the blanket accusations and blind hatred that many people have concerning the general socioeconomic landscape.

people make blanket statements about military people "baby killers" and what not, and about cops "who werent smart enought to go to college" and that both groups are dumbed-down fucktards on a macho high.

I'm not a cop or in the military, im just making a point, it goes both ways.

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Originally Posted by Amelinda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it's depressing to read and you will never change their closed minds.

I don't understand people who think that way. I especially don't understand Christians...oh i'm sorry "Christians" who are against any sort of program that helps underprivleged people.

you have to understand. I believe in helping out people who are in a bad place no matter what the reason they are there. i love them where they are at and hope that encourages them to improve and grow. *shrug*

Amelinda, from my experiences most people are pretty closed minded. Don't paint it as an 18-26 conservative rich kid thing; liberals, anarchists, etc are all just as closed minded. I've gone through graduate school and worked for Congress and you would be surprised at how many professors, politicians, senior advisors, etc have no real world experience with the welfare system or its recipients. They read something on some liberal blog, hear it on msnbc, or take something out of context from political theory, and no amount of logic and evidence will change their mind.

As for the Christian comment, its just like any group. I think Christians, for the most part, are willing to go out of their way and to do what it takes in order to help people. There are a lot of drawbacks to our current system though - its hard to tell who really needs help, there is no accountability system, there is no limit to the generosity, no incentive to get off the system, and they have no control over who gets the help. Most people, Christians included, aren't going to keep giving money to someone that spends it on drugs and comes back for more.

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Originally Posted by Amelinda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

why are you starting all of these effing political threads? why are there so many political discussions going on - this isn't a political discussion board. i'm just curious as to why. i don't really care. but tbh i don't read the threads because all they turn out to be are a bunch of kids aged 18-26 who seem to have been brought up privlege who are stuck on the far conservative side and think everyone who receives wellfare should be put to death or something similar. it's depressing to read and you will never change their closed minds.

I don't understand people who think that way. I especially don't understand Christians...oh i'm sorry "Christians" who are against any sort of program that helps underprivleged people.

hbb there are like two people on these forums who have a remotely humanitarian leaning it seems sostarting these threads doesn't generate 'fun discussion' so much as it causes rage (at least in me) :P

you have to understand. I believe in helping out people who are in a bad place no matter what the reason they are there. i love them where they are at and hope that encourages them to improve and grow. *shrug*

There's a big difference between being a good person, helping the less fortunate out, and advocating the government take money from Group A to give it to Group B, no matter how much Group B needs it. That is simply dividing up stolen property. It's easy to be generous with other peoples' money. Hell, half of Americans don't pay any income taxes. For them to be so willing to support spreading this tax money is easy, as they have no skin in the game.

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Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's a big difference between being a good person, helping the less fortunate out, and advocating the government take money from Group A to give it to Group B, no matter how much Group B needs it. That is simply dividing up stolen property. It's easy to be generous with other peoples' money. Hell, half of Americans don't pay any income taxes. For them to be so willing to support spreading this tax money is easy, as they have no skin in the game.

This is from 2009:

http://taxprof.typepad.com/files/jct...income-tax.pdf

19% have zero income tax liability, 29% get a refundable credit, and 52% pay positive income liability.

81% pay income taxes; it's just that almost 1/3 of the nation doesn't make enough or plans ahead and pays taxes on their pay check instead of waiting till the end of the year.