Macroquest

[Itchybottom]

What sucks about MacroQuest2, despite what Rogean has claimed, is that it isn't really detectable. There are certain behaviors on clients that make MacroQuest2 stand out (depending on what plug-ins are being utilized, actions per minute, all of that jazz), but there isn't some magical process monitoring going on here. Nor does an established connection, or a connection being made from the EverQuest client differ from a regular client for the most part. The exception however is when you start detouring memory addresses, such as run speed and have that locked during a zone event. That's not MacroQuest2 specific though, that can be done with any cheat toolset.

Hackers log entires will be target distance, client initiated zone requests, large movement requests, and sending OP_SpawnAppearance packets. It's pure gut instinct banning someone on an EQEMU server otherwise.

With that said, I really wish I never released my ProjectEQ build and have often times contemplated adding disable checks for various servers. However, more communities have sprung up that provide source code and compiles for EQEMU specifically, and they would in turn just use someone else's compile.

I'm open to ideas on how to prevent MacroQuest2 on EQEMU. I've already stated in another thread what MQ2 can and can't handle buffer wise, that the client is oblivious to. I've been wanting MQ2 gone since late 2007 after people on ProjectEQ started running 24+ characters and causing zone crashes. Third-party injection tools are really the first line of defense against this, but users like me have trust issues without source code available to such a beast, or at least enough time to set break points in a debugger and trace the stack to figure out what the hell said third-party application is doing on my PC. Maybe a binary diff and patch for eqgame.exe could be released, that changes some of the memory regions and behavior in client? That'd knock out nearly 99% of the people that use MacroQuest2, because their offsets would no longer function. That amount of code caves though... Good lord.

And to clarify, I don't mean just changing offsets, I mean changing the way certain aspects of the client function, and changing it server side to reflect the population value of data.

[XeldiablosX]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Having it loaded will automatically inject itself into any EQ Client it finds that its compatible with. If it injects, we will detect it, and theres no excuse; I'll inject your face with a ban.

LOL now thats funny =p

[Aisi]

Originally Posted by Edgetiq [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well when mobs warp it flares up. But this guy claims he never warped and other have claimed to warp and get by fine without a ban.

So I can understand Rogean's stance on MQ2 but he is saying every client is detectable I am just wondering why so little have been banned!

It's an easy way to scare people off from using MQ2. Why don't you just leave him alone and stop questioning it.

[Edgetiq]

Originally Posted by Aisi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's an easy way to scare people off from using MQ2. Why don't you just leave him alone and stop questioning it.

Why don't you save your next post for something interesting. I am asking a question don't tell me what I can and can't post.

[Aisi]

Originally Posted by Edgetiq [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why don't you save your next post for something interesting. I am asking a question don't tell me what I can and can't post.

Woah tough guy. Calm down. Relax.

MQ2 can't be detected just because it's injected into EQ. People have disputed what Rogaen has said since the first page and you'd think seeing no one banned on P1999 due to MQ2 usage would be enough proof for you.

[Edgetiq]

Originally Posted by Aisi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Woah tough guy. Calm down. Relax.

MQ2 can't be detected just because it's injected into EQ. People have disputed what Rogaen has said since the first page and you'd think seeing no one banned on P1999 due to MQ2 usage would be enough proof for you.

Wind your neck in.

You wouldn't see any bans on the forums obviously...

[JackFlash]

I am just wondering why so little have been banned!

How would you know captain obvious?

You wouldn't see any bans on the forums obviously

Obviously......



P.S. - Anything that changes the source code of the titanum client is a copyright no no from what I understand.

[Wrot]

Can't figure if there is more ass kissing or hand jobs going around in this thread.

[oldhead]

Originally Posted by Edgetiq [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well when mobs warp it flares up. But this guy claims he never warped and other have claimed to warp and get by fine without a ban.

So I can understand Rogean's stance on MQ2 but he is saying every client is detectable I am just wondering why so little have been banned!

Perhaps not as many people are using it as you think.

I have been accused of using it a few times by other players.
I have never used it in my life, ever, on any game. I only know what it is by reading threads like this one.

My point is... just because you "think" someone is using it doesnt mean they do.

[Aisi]

Originally Posted by Edgetiq [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wind your neck in.

You wouldn't see any bans on the forums obviously...

Because I talk to people who use it constantly, level 50s in raiding guilds. It's very rampant on here and if you don't think so try camping a contested mob like Bilge or watch someone do Quillmane. I don't care enough to snitch on every one (and the confirm cases are friends who use it), but you've proven you're ignorant enough that I had to spell it out for you.

There are servers that try to combat MQ (SoD, PEQ, VZTZ) but this isn't one of them. No offense to him (and I'm not judging) but one of the developers on here is a big user and was caught on one of the listed servers. Don't hold your breath waiting for action against it.