How are Bards in the DPS department?

[Motec]

I believe franswa is correct. You are all beyond confused, mistaken, dreaming or high on drugs. Not one of you has posted something even reasonably considerable as accurate on P1999 for the state of melee.

P.S. Bards are amazing, but 98% of the people that play them are morons. If you need to argue if a class is good or not, you are not good enough, experienced enough, know enough, or have the aptitude to play a bard and understand the mechanics of being a bard.

[Pyronost]

I believe I was fairly accurate. Thank you though.

[pickled_heretic]

bards are OP. their aoe mez is fucking ridiculous. you can train a whole zone to a bard and if he knows what he's doing he can keep the entire zone locked down with mezzes (while still twisting a song or two in) if he is competent. their dps is not amazing BY THEMSELVES. but if they are doing their CC job properly they will ALSO be charming mobs which increases the bard's dmg to quite a bit above any other class (except for a lvl 60 tstaff monk, lvl 60 rogue, or an enchanter who is charming, equipping, and hasting a backstabbing mob).

sadly most of the bards who play EQ will not ever reach this level of competence. but if you do you will wonder why you ever played any other class.

[Diggles]

Originally Posted by Pyronost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I believe I was fairly accurate. Thank you though.

It's nice to have beliefs.

[falkun]

Charming an add instead of mezzing it will help the bard increase his DPS substantially. But that takes more coordination and skill than most bards will try.

Bard melee DPS is bad. If you are trying to contribute meaningfully to a group yourself, you are better off sitting back with a drum and singing the chant songs than trying to tear up DPS with weapons.

Bards live off a simple philosophy: Bards can do anything, but it takes them 3 seconds to do it and it lasts for 3 ticks (12-18sec). What a bard accomplishes within those 3 ticks separates the wheat from the chaff.

[Francois]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

bards are OP. their aoe mez is fucking ridiculous. you can train a whole zone to a bard and if he knows what he's doing he can keep the entire zone locked down with mezzes (while still twisting a song or two in) if he is competent. their dps is not amazing BY THEMSELVES. but if they are doing their CC job properly they will ALSO be charming mobs which increases the bard's dmg to quite a bit above any other class (except for a lvl 60 tstaff monk, lvl 60 rogue, or an enchanter who is charming, equipping, and hasting a backstabbing mob).

sadly most of the bards who play EQ will not ever reach this level of competence. but if you do you will wonder why you ever played any other class.

All wrong.

The only person that has posted any legitimate information in this thread is Giegue. Carry on though, they're all pretty funny.

[Diggles]

if you play the thingy on the bard it will increase the effectiveness of the thingy that uses the thingy to make thingys

[Diggles]

I want a lute with Franswa's avatar pasted on the front side.

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Francois [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All wrong.

The only person that has posted any legitimate information in this thread is Giegue. Carry on though, they're all pretty funny.

how is this wrong? I was grouped with bards that were using this exact tactic in my 30's, and using my own charmed pets to help mow through the train.. furthermore isn't this how TR used to pull VS to the zone and lockdown every mob before rogean banned it? Isn't TMO nuking one of these said trains to break the bard mez what got them raid banned for a week?

[pickled_heretic]

I know I won't get a straight response, because none of the bards want their OP aoe mez that actually got resisted to all fuckshit on classic live nerfed.