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Old 11-09-2011, 05:47 PM
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Ill be glad to take the penalty on my monk and wizard for a LOH or HT abilitiy, Id even take a 100% reduction without complains.
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:50 PM
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Bards are OP?


Not in the slightest, certainly not in old world. They kill slower than Clerics and won't scratch anyone with 80+ resists. They are one of the weakest classes for indoors pvp. I never died to Bards on live, even the geared ones in PDM. I could run all the way across Dreadlands before they had my HPs in any real danger with their annoying DoT chants.

Bottom line: the game was never really balanced around these penalties. A paladin sure as shit isn't leveling 30% faster than a Monk or Necro or Druid. 30% slower maybe, and with no exp penalty.
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:52 PM
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Too bad there is no remorting...

Always wanted that in an MMO.

Either way, penalties are good IMO.

Sks and pallies hold aggro much easier, so they are preferable to some extent.

Rangers end up pretty boss, so that's legit.

Bars kiting is retarded, they need a 100% penalty IMO.

It makes sense when I think about grouping.
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:53 PM
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slow, snare, mezz, selfresists, chants, charm, selos, heal... bards are op, specialy in pvp
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:54 PM
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Yeah some classes are really powerful in pvp. Great. We're not changing class specifics. If it's so powerful, play one.
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:59 PM
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actually one thing I would like to see changed is hybrids in a group causing exp penalties....or did they decide to get rid of that already?
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Old 11-09-2011, 06:18 PM
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actually one thing I would like to see changed is hybrids in a group causing exp penalties....or did they decide to get rid of that already?
Nah, and shouldn't.

It's the only reason people will group warriors etc
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:08 PM
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Bards are OP?


Not in the slightest, certainly not in old world. They kill slower than Clerics and won't scratch anyone with 80+ resists. They are one of the weakest classes for indoors pvp. I never died to Bards on live, even the geared ones in PDM. I could run all the way across Dreadlands before they had my HPs in any real danger with their annoying DoT chants.

Bottom line: the game was never really balanced around these penalties. A paladin sure as shit isn't leveling 30% faster than a Monk or Necro or Druid. 30% slower maybe, and with no exp penalty.
obviously u havent playd on beta because legit bards are easily landing mez (on 120+ MR) and their fire n ice dots do pretty dam good damage/ and almost never resisted - this with being lvl 50 with gear n shit

the Hit n Run bard is ownin purty much everyone right now/ dot and range jousting ftw im seein bards easily handle 1v2 1v3 situations without breakin a sweat


indoors yea u can kill em
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:09 PM
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bards pwn me but then again im nub
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:16 PM
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actually one thing I would like to see changed is hybrids in a group causing exp penalties....or did they decide to get rid of that already?
Yeah this is the only part that really bugs me (and the main reason the xp penalties got dropped , once word got out the hybrids was sucking up everyone elses xp and being shunned).

I dont mind leveling slower, but I hate to "burden" my group with my penalty. Feeling like a charity case, unloading my xp penalty on them.

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