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View Poll Results: Should a GMs job include dealing with training/bind camping petitions?
Yes, it should be against the rules to train and bind camp 22 37.93%
No, let players sort out training and camping among themselves 36 62.07%
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Old 11-05-2011, 03:20 PM
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I see training as "I'm (or we're) not good enough to pvp you, so I'm going to go above and beyond my (our) personal ability to stop you"

Since trains don't kill trains, and good trainers don't get trained, what kills a trainer? Hackers. Training encourages hacking, both because it makes it easier to train, and makes it easier to stop trainers. I know there's an anti hacking policy and detection system in, but train-wars are just ASKING for hackers to come to the surface. Maybe that'll be a good thing, and they'll finally get caught? I dunno.

Secondly, I just know from experience (I raided on Sullon Zek) that bard speed, DA, Rez-Box training is some serious bullshit. There's too many good abilities in the game that make training way too effective to just make it legal across the board. At LEAST keep rez-box training illegal.

In short, I feel like "working it out amongst ourselves" would be actually fighting each other like men, not relying on PvE to do your PvPing for you like a bunch of pussies.
How about: im not good enough to fight your 40+ guild roster, does that count?

It may be that Rallos had a no training and no bind camping rule, but it was so non-enforced that i never thought it was actually illegal.

Im curious about feedback from Rallos '99, was training and bind camping met with 0 GM sanctions, like they were in '00 ?

Could you elaborate on what is rez-box training?
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Old 11-05-2011, 03:34 PM
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Training = illegal
Bind camping = legal

on server... so why did you include them both together you bumbling fucking retard?
^This.
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Old 11-05-2011, 03:36 PM
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You let training be allowed and your population will be people...who train other people and I doubt the Devs will keep a server open for just a few asshats.
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Old 11-05-2011, 03:38 PM
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You let training be allowed and your population will be people...who train other people and I doubt the Devs will keep a server open for just a few asshats.
I rarely trained on Rallos yet i played 2 years. To be fair this community is probably way worse than Rallos was.

I dont know, in my head, its more that it would save GMs giant headaches by letting players sort shit out themselves. Yeah a few people might quit over training but its probably players that would have quit anyway over getting ganked 4v1 5 times in an hour. And they will quit, no matter what.
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