ATTN: Beta testers - Page 4

pickled_heretic · #31 11-02-2011, 11:41 AM

gate guards at freeport are generally lvl 50 and are an undercon. i'd love to see a lvl 20 try to kill them

Mardur · #32 11-02-2011, 11:46 AM

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This doesn't really make any sense. If a Mage was soloing Oggok Guards, he wouldn't be immune to PvP. It would actually be the opposite. If he is killing a guard for experience and another player decided they wanted to kill him, that guard is not going to go after the other person because of PvP if he is allready fighting. That Mage is going to have two things beating the shit out of him.

Simple solution -- Don't PvP near guards. If you want to kill guards for experience you inherit the risk of it being Guard/Player vs You.

No, but a mage can easily just run deeper into Oggok or anywhere where there are guards up to be instantly safe under the proposed system.

If you can't see how this is a problem, then, well...

Samoht · #33 11-02-2011, 11:57 AM

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you're right pal, they should just implement the /ready command null suggested for both players to type before they pvp to make sure everyone has had a nice safe spot to med and heal up and has had a chance to sell and bank all their money!

or they should just remove all NPCs all together and make this a game where you level up by killing other players and gain gear by taking theirs!

realise that there is a happy medium. PVP does not imply that all you're ever supposed to do is kill other players when you see them. FFA does not imply that the entire server is a war zone. a game like that would be unplayable.

Bkab · #34 11-02-2011, 12:05 PM

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realise that there is a happy medium. PVP does not imply that all you're ever supposed to do is kill other players when you see them.

no, but it does imply should you want to, you are able to.. your post makes no sense at all.

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FFA does not imply that the entire server is a war zone. a game like that would be unplayable.

there are no safe zones in classic, so yea it kinda does. So if guards didn't attack players attacking other players, the game would be unplayable? are you serious? read that statement again and reconsider your post. it is most definitely not unplayable, because that's how it fucking was to begin with on classic pvp servers, no zones were safe at all. the entire server was a war zone.

Samoht · #35 11-02-2011, 12:14 PM

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no, but it does imply should you want to, you are able to.. your post makes no sense at all.

And if i should want to run to a guard instead of dieing to some no-life derper who made a 300 hp at level 2 twink just to grief people, i should be able to.

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there are no safe zones in classic

there are no safe zones proposed for R99, either. quit saying there are. your posts don't make any sense.

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because that's how it fucking was to begin with on classic pvp servers, no zones were safe at all. the entire server was a war zone.

did you even play? guards existed on eqlive pvp servers. i played on SZ. guards were there. guards are classic.

Rallyd · #36 11-02-2011, 12:17 PM

I vividly remember bank ganking in neriek city, but i also remember you couldn't be even remotely around guards when you did it, back then LOS wasn't necessary, and you could go on top of the forge building and nuke people in the bank from there, then run down to loot. This was before the corpse was even locked to you when you killed a player, anyone could loot it, so I used to make level 1 bank looter characters for my cousin's 50 wizard to gank people.

Used to make quite a lot of money, however if LOS is needed, there will be no more ganking people in cities without guard distractions, or overpowering numbers.

Bkab · #37 11-02-2011, 12:24 PM

Samoht, you just said eq would be unplayable if you couldn't run to guards to avoid a pvp death. What doesn't make sense about my post? Quit putting words in my mouth. Where did I say safe zones are proposed and guards did not exist on pvp servers lol? To save yourself a lot of crying and raging, you should probably not even play here and go roll a toon on the blue server.

Samoht · #38 11-02-2011, 12:32 PM

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Samoht, you just said eq would be unplayable if you couldn't run to guards to avoid a pvp death.

i never said that.

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Quit putting words in my mouth.

Look guys, another trolling, flaming, hypocrite that alters quotes to fit his agenda! seems like that kind of idiocy is rampant on the r99 server. so glad most of it has moved out of p99.

you keep crying that guards aren't classic. i keep providing proof that they're not only classic, but required to make the game playable. since there will be rules and mechanics on the server preventing you from griefing whenever it pleases you, you're crying about it. wahhhh.

all i have to say is play smarter. keep people from making it to the guards if you want to gank lowbies in the newbie area successfully. learn guard paths and only kill people at the bank when you have a clear path to the zone line.

i have no desire to waste my time on a server where some no-life derper like you can twink and outlevel me and then chase me across five zones for the sake of griefing me. guards will give people a place to go to successfully escape. if you want to cry about it, either learn to beat the guards, or learn to fight players that stand a chance.

Treats · #39 11-02-2011, 12:35 PM

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No, but a mage can easily just run deeper into Oggok or anywhere where there are guards up to be instantly safe under the proposed system.

If you can't see how this is a problem, then, well...

I'm don't know how the player is going to be safe if he runs further into the zone. They are still KoS to the guards. If he aggroes another guard it isn't magically going to go after the other player if he isn't doing anything. He is going to kill the mage first. If you are KoS to the guards I highly doubt they are going to help you. I'm sure Rogean has allready thought of this.

gloinz · #40 11-02-2011, 01:02 PM

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I'm don't know how the player is going to be safe if he runs further into the zone. They are still KoS to the guards. If he aggroes another guard it isn't magically going to go after the other player if he isn't doing anything. He is going to kill the mage first. If you are KoS to the guards I highly doubt they are going to help you. I'm sure Rogean has allready thought of this.

just seems full of loopholes hoho feighn death before u nuke me now mob is on u