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Old 11-01-2011, 12:27 AM
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I also thought that AC lowers the max hit cap. I can clearly see that Yummy's max hit is 108 on both characters. Shouldn't the max hit be lower on the target with higher AC?

Example: 400ac max hit = 108------770ac max hit= 90

Something similar to that? Then an overall lower spectrum of numbers calculated due to the higher AC....

or something!
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Old 11-01-2011, 12:32 AM
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I'm a mini ship from one of the protoss carriers, and cast is the mothership.
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Old 11-01-2011, 12:45 AM
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I'm a mini ship from one of the protoss carriers, and cast is the mothership.
They're called Interceptors, NOOB.
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Old 11-01-2011, 12:56 AM
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pretty good analogy because motherships are fucking terrible
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Old 11-01-2011, 12:40 AM
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If the VZTZ crowd would just leave the discussion and debates and testing to the real people, these forums would be a lot more helpful.
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Old 11-01-2011, 04:05 AM
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Old 11-01-2011, 06:18 AM
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i mean other than the obvious. lol
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Old 11-01-2011, 07:16 AM
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Seems like AC make you miss more and Defense skill make you get hit for less damage. Not sure what defense skill Shartstains? Did people that was lvl'd to 50 at the event get max in all skills?
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Old 11-01-2011, 07:37 AM
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http://www.notacult.com/episode3.htm

This page shows you a lot on mitigation on live.

Notice the damage he getting on the paladin using an 8 dmg weapon (notice the first screen has 'your engulfing darkness spell as worn off' message thus using a serrated bone dirk). He pierces for a max of 11. This is with full shaman buffs (hes grouped with Blart).

Now scroll through the other screens and you can see that against casters he is piercing a lot harder. He is doing upwards of 35 dmg to the clothies. He also does decent dmg against a cleric. I guess the cleric has his class quest armor, which is going to be far inferior to the paladin's planar no-drop stuff AC-wise, since it's not purple and they loot a froggy crown.

I know these aren't logs of 100+ hits, but I think it is still definitive enough to get the idea that AC played a larger part in PVP melee than we are seeing currently on red99.
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Old 11-01-2011, 09:26 AM
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The facts of AC and mitigation/avoidence are out there (and they are not in the first post, his numbers are all wrong and pulled out of his butt), but we don't have any idea what system they are useing here.

From fighting some super green bandits on a lvl 50 buffed/skilled buffed Paladin, I missed my swings way more then I thought "felt" right (theres that word again..).

We have to trust in Null (or whoever) in running parses to make sure his forumula is working right. Its hard to just look at the small picture, Null is the one that has to look at the system from the outside, as a whole, to make sure everything is balanced.
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