Raid mobs - 30 minute timers, and you. IF YOU RAID, READ IT

[Armin34]

well thats fine about how you wanted to farm the trash to mold your guild, but for a guild who crys and whines about the 30 min call, and for them to not even bother to contact you guys in respect to see if you were going to engage it is pretty shady. a normal guild would make some type of contact, and im sure someone from IB said "they didnt call their 30, we should hurry and leapfrog them for the kill"

Regardless of what reason Remedy was up there for, people were assuming, and you know what happens when we assume right? What if this wasn't the case? This whole situation is just roffle the woffle.

[Uaellaen]

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[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Armin34 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

well thats fine about how you wanted to farm the trash to mold your guild, but for a guild who crys and whines about the 30 min call, and for them to not even bother to contact you guys in respect to see if you were going to engage it is pretty shady. a normal guild would make some type of contact, and im sure someone from IB said "they didnt call their 30, we should hurry and leapfrog them for the kill"

Regardless of what reason Remedy was up there for, people were assuming, and you know what happens when we assume right? What if this wasn't the case? This whole situation is just roffle the woffle.

You can't call your own 30 minutes. People keep getting this wrong.
The second guild with 15 in zone (or at the staging area in some cases) is who needs to call the 30 minutes on the first guild that was there.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can't call your own 30 minutes. People keep getting this wrong.
The second guild with 15 in zone (or at the staging area in some cases) is who needs to call the 30 minutes on the first guild that was there.

You wouldn't THINK that people could misunderstand this so often.. It is very clearly spelled out in the rules. lol.

[Ektar]

Originally Posted by Uaellaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My guild chat looked something like this "OMG IB zoning in they want our maestro!!" my reply "ignore them, just keep farming the trash mobs, let them have maestro. We are here to gear up" something along those lines ...

yes we did indeed clear towards maestro, and yes we most likley would have also killed him, but as its way more important for us to gear up, i didnt want to start a) a flame fest or b) rushing towards maestro with a freshly formed guild that still needs to mold together ... i wanted to avoid stupid CRs / Trains other accidents, so i decided to ignore maestro completly ...

See yeah exactly. good for you there! The bottom line is, as said in the rules (either directly or indirectly I'm not going to reread them for which), being in a zone does not give you ownership of everything in it. Remedy was at the zoneline (not maestro), and we moved up to maestro and began to pull him. This scenario is analogous to having a raid force at solb royals when naggy pops, then IB rushing to FG prep and beginning to pull fire giants. I know someone said that it was some other way on live, where if a boss pops while another guild is in there no one bothers it, but (1) that's likely not true for every live server back then and (2) it's just different here regardless.

Originally Posted by Uaellaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

on another note, i do not know who Audacious93c is, so i dont even know if he is affiliated with us at all [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] and i assume you dont know who it is either, just assumed it must be one of us whining ...

Indeed, I mistook this person's passionate whining with incorrect facts and assumptions as a person from the other party; as we so often deal with, ya know? But this is my fault, I accept it -- I should have also realized we just have people that want to use incorrect facts and assumptions against us at any cost for the fuck of it, and not jumped to a conclusion.

Well audacious93c, the people you were trying to "defend" (I put it in quotes cuz you don't really care about them and just want to attack us) have dispelled your falsehoods themselves. We didn't even have to do it.





Furthermore. Acarer is entitled to his opinion and quite welcome to discuss it on an open forum. However, his words do not represent IB's standpoint. We neither agree nor disagree here. Stop treating this as a big bad guild demanding more food scraps and treat it, like it is, as a single person expressing his thoughts and concerns.

Disagree with him? Say why. Don't care? don't reply.

[Arkanjil]

Originally Posted by Ektar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Furthermore. Acarer is entitled to his opinion and quite welcome to discuss it on an open forum. However, his words do not represent IB's standpoint. We neither agree nor disagree here. Stop treating this as a big bad guild demanding more food scraps and treat it, like it is, as a single person expressing his thoughts and concerns.

Disagree with him? Say why. Don't care? don't reply.

Well said, slam dunk!

[Otto]

bout time it ended up in here

[Gwence]

Originally Posted by TheDudeAbides [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not anon you moron

You sound like a teenager on Xanex IRL bro. Don't even go there son.

P.S. Learn teh sarcasm. Maestro can be done with 1 cleric + 1 enchanter. Don't pretend like he's difficult. The mechanics on this server are totally fubared.

I'll try to work on my voice since it's bothering you so much. In the meantime however, why dont you fill me in on who you are?

P.S. How many times have you killed Maestro?

[Audacious93c]

Originally Posted by Ektar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Indeed, I mistook this person's passionate whining with incorrect facts and assumptions as a person from the other party; as we so often deal with, ya know? But this is my fault, I accept it -- I should have also realized we just have people that want to use incorrect facts and assumptions against us at any cost for the fuck of it, and not jumped to a conclusion.

Well audacious93c, the people you were trying to "defend" (I put it in quotes cuz you don't really care about them and just want to attack us) have dispelled your falsehoods themselves. We didn't even have to do it.

Im glad you think Im whining when Im just stating what I saw and what friends within Remedy told me while I was there. Especially, when they started complaining to me that they said that IB told them nothing and gave them no options. Also, do you really think that Remedy wouldnt have killed him? Are you really that oblivious? Uuallaen even points out that he would have killed him if given the chance, comprehension is key in a forum.

The only bit I have to gain is to show the glaring disrespect your guild has for everyone else on this server. If you believe good politics is to take a freshly formed guild and start talking trash when a guild obviously leap frogs you is good for business; then I would suggest taking a step back from being a 1337 dude and examine what they have to gain/lose by doing so. Its obvious that Im not the only one that feels this way since this thread is making its way up the pages without even caring about the OP's suggestion. It was pointed out very clearly, that IB and Tranny got their feathers ruffled when Divinity downed Vox. It felt great to know Fish Bait killed Draco and stole him away from you (But we all know how that turned out, Im sure Salty thought that ban was nice of IB). Hence the 6am kill on Naggy this morning by both of your guilds together. It feels great for these guilds, including mine to pull the chair out from under your asses for once.

Also, sorry Im not reading the forums every waking minute to reply to your witty posts. /signed, the big bad Anonymous guy! OOnoozzz!

[jkfranklin]

would love to see raid mobs just be ffa. would be great drama