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Old 10-14-2011, 10:28 AM
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have you ever actually stopped and talked to any of these people in person?
How dare you ask a question that you yourself cannot answer, "Yes" to.

I'll exit this thread with this lasting image from the occupy Boston protest -

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What an absolutely prophetic and well thought out message.
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Old 10-14-2011, 10:31 AM
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How dare you ask a question that you yourself cannot answer, "Yes" to.

Puppet much? What're you the most tattoo'd cool kid @ state_college_02?
Not that I feel like I need to defend myself from personal attacks like this, but yes, I'm attending university.

I'm going to school to be a teacher because I am so brazen as to actually think that I can help make the world a better place. I'm also working 36 hours a week and attending classes full time. I do not have any tattoos, but I have thought about getting one from time to time.

I've answered your question, now please answer mine: have you ever actually talked to any of these people in person?
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Old 10-14-2011, 10:35 AM
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^ here's the thing. I literally walk through these protestors on a daily basis to arrive at my office in PO Square in Boston. So, whether you like it or not, I am informed enough based on 1st hand experience, and unfortunately for you have the right to identify my opinion publically.

Even more unfortunate for you, is the fact that I have already determined your stereotype and I am absolutely blown away that I've wasted another 2.5 minutes of my day responding to your dribble.

Here's the point though - these protestors aren't protesting a goddamn thing. They are, en mass, arriving destinationless, seeking out their demographic and huddling in the pre-desginated "protest" area. They've identified no demands, and have conceded at every opportunity to law enforcements demands.

Sounds like a bunch of filthy pussies, sorry.
They do, don't they? It's a shame, because there's a legitimate gripe somewhere in there, obscured by a mass of dirty hippies playing bongos and generally goofing off.

I know what their message should be, but it seems like they're just whining that they have no money while others do.

Protesting bailouts? That's good. Protesting enormous pay and bonuses for execs of struggling companies, while the working man continually gets laid off and can't find adequate work? That's good. Just hanging around as an unemployed hippie eating free food, who doesn't even know who people like Nancy Pelosi are? That's not good. And that's what these people come off as.

I actually agree with them, but I don't like the fact that they come off as lazy, dirty hippies who are just whining. Some of them don't even really know what they're protesting, and that hurts the protest. That's why it will accomplish nothing at all.
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Old 10-14-2011, 10:37 AM
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So how comfortable are you with the subprime/derivatives mess of 2008? How many of those responsible for defrauding borrowers and securities mis-ratings have been brought up on charges, let alone thrown in jail?

I've talked to a bunch of these kids with tats and piercings. Some of them are sharp as hell.
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Old 10-14-2011, 10:37 AM
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there's a legitimate gripe somewhere in there, obscured by a mass of dirty hippies playing bongos and generally goofing off.

I know what their message should be, but it seems like they're just whining that they have no money while others do.
Pickled, this is the small point I was trying to make. I agree with the concept, but this literal protest is completely meaningless, and even worse messageless.
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Old 10-14-2011, 10:39 AM
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Because wittingly or otherwise, you're parroting propoganda(sic).
This. Exactly this. Examples:

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So the "occupy Boston" version of this "protest" is pretty hilarious. Every radio station/news network is unable to get a straight answer from any of the "protestors" regarding why they're even there.

TBH - get the fuck out of Boston. The only "99%" stat thats obvious to identify is the fact that 99% of these idiots are homeless fucking drifters shtitting up public transportation and bathing in McDonalds restrooms.
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Has anyone been to the Occupy Wall Street? It's a bunch of wanna be smelly hippies in drum circles smoking pot and saying maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan every 5 seconds. There is nothing happening there. Good luck finding a handful of people who are actually there to protest with good reason. The rest of them are worthless freeloaders. It's really a crock of shit the media is trying to blow up into some movement when it isn't. Can't wait for it to get real cold outside.
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I've heard several say they have student loans, and they want the "government" to pay those loans. I've heard many say they are tired of corporations. I've heard many say they think the rich have too much money.

But I have yet to hear one of them say anything about what exactly they want done.

With sponsors like Adbusters and George Soros, I can't see anything positive coming from this bunch of basement dwellers turned park occupiers.
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They do, don't they? It's a shame, because there's a legitimate gripe somewhere in there, obscured by a mass of dirty hippies playing bongos and generally goofing off.

I know what their message should be, but it seems like they're just whining that they have no money while others do.

Protesting bailouts? That's good. Protesting enormous pay and bonuses for execs of struggling companies, while the working man continually gets laid off and can't find adequate work? That's good. Just hanging around as an unemployed hippie eating free food, who doesn't even know who people like Nancy Pelosi are? That's not good. And that's what these people come off as.

I am so tired of people regurgitating this bullshit. Some Republican commentator told us that they don't have a message and that they don't have unity, so we're going to repeat it to everybody that will listen because we're just sheep to the dollar.

The fact of the matter is that they have a very specific, precise message: we will no longer be ruled by wealth. So where did their protests start? In the exact location where the most money in the world exchanges hands daily on the backs of the American workers.

There are reasons they are unemployed. There are reasons they cannot afford to pay back their student loans. And they're tired of it.

This is exactly what started the Arab Spring earlier this year. Young people in Tunisia were college educated, but there were no jobs. As a result, they are forced to do menial jobs while the government steals their fruit carts.

The OWS is here to take the control of the government back for the 99%. No longer will they be ruled by corporations, lobbyists, and crooked politicians. At this point, most of the violence has been directed towards them by government oppressors, but the second it turns the other way, it's an all out war against the rich.

The problem for them is going to be that the soldiers and the police are also overworked and underpaid just like the rest of us. How long do you think they'll continue to obey orders to fire at their brothers and sisters?
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Old 10-14-2011, 10:40 AM
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From what I've seen, the message of a great number of these protestors is "Corporations are using government power to screw over the little guy, so let's give government more power to stop them!" The lack of any deduction skills on how that idea will pan out is amazing.

If they were at any way consistent with their goals, they'd be protesting outside the Fed and the White House. Instead, they are essentially trying to bring down a statue by attacking its shadow.

I'm actually going to attend the Occupy Orlando event tomorrow. Will find out firsthand what they're all about.
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There are reasons they cannot afford to pay back their student loans. And they're tired of it.
Stopped here. You understand that per polling of Boston and Wall Street protestors that one half of one percent has ever received any form of education beyond High School?
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Old 10-14-2011, 10:46 AM
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Stopped here. You understand that per polling of Boston and Wall Street protestors that one half of one percent has ever received any form of education beyond High School?
And I suppose you know this from firsthand experience?
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