OCCUPY WALLSTREET!

[Orruar]

From what I've seen, the message of a great number of these protestors is "Corporations are using government power to screw over the little guy, so let's give government more power to stop them!" The lack of any deduction skills on how that idea will pan out is amazing.

If they were at any way consistent with their goals, they'd be protesting outside the Fed and the White House. Instead, they are essentially trying to bring down a statue by attacking its shadow.

I'm actually going to attend the Occupy Orlando event tomorrow. Will find out firsthand what they're all about.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Vohl [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because wittingly or otherwise, you're parroting propoganda(sic).

This. Exactly this. Examples:

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So the "occupy Boston" version of this "protest" is pretty hilarious. Every radio station/news network is unable to get a straight answer from any of the "protestors" regarding why they're even there.

TBH - get the fuck out of Boston. The only "99%" stat thats obvious to identify is the fact that 99% of these idiots are homeless fucking drifters shtitting up public transportation and bathing in McDonalds restrooms.

Originally Posted by Bohab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Has anyone been to the Occupy Wall Street? It's a bunch of wanna be smelly hippies in drum circles smoking pot and saying maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan every 5 seconds. There is nothing happening there. Good luck finding a handful of people who are actually there to protest with good reason. The rest of them are worthless freeloaders. It's really a crock of shit the media is trying to blow up into some movement when it isn't. Can't wait for it to get real cold outside.

Originally Posted by Hoggen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've heard several say they have student loans, and they want the "government" to pay those loans. I've heard many say they are tired of corporations. I've heard many say they think the rich have too much money.

But I have yet to hear one of them say anything about what exactly they want done.

With sponsors like Adbusters and George Soros, I can't see anything positive coming from this bunch of basement dwellers turned park occupiers.

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They do, don't they? It's a shame, because there's a legitimate gripe somewhere in there, obscured by a mass of dirty hippies playing bongos and generally goofing off.

I know what their message should be, but it seems like they're just whining that they have no money while others do.

Protesting bailouts? That's good. Protesting enormous pay and bonuses for execs of struggling companies, while the working man continually gets laid off and can't find adequate work? That's good. Just hanging around as an unemployed hippie eating free food, who doesn't even know who people like Nancy Pelosi are? That's not good. And that's what these people come off as.

I am so tired of people regurgitating this bullshit. Some Republican commentator told us that they don't have a message and that they don't have unity, so we're going to repeat it to everybody that will listen because we're just sheep to the dollar.

The fact of the matter is that they have a very specific, precise message: we will no longer be ruled by wealth. So where did their protests start? In the exact location where the most money in the world exchanges hands daily on the backs of the American workers.

There are reasons they are unemployed. There are reasons they cannot afford to pay back their student loans. And they're tired of it.

This is exactly what started the Arab Spring earlier this year. Young people in Tunisia were college educated, but there were no jobs. As a result, they are forced to do menial jobs while the government steals their fruit carts.

The OWS is here to take the control of the government back for the 99%. No longer will they be ruled by corporations, lobbyists, and crooked politicians. At this point, most of the violence has been directed towards them by government oppressors, but the second it turns the other way, it's an all out war against the rich.

The problem for them is going to be that the soldiers and the police are also overworked and underpaid just like the rest of us. How long do you think they'll continue to obey orders to fire at their brothers and sisters?

[azeth]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are reasons they cannot afford to pay back their student loans. And they're tired of it.

Stopped here. You understand that per polling of Boston and Wall Street protestors that one half of one percent has ever received any form of education beyond High School?

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stopped here. You understand that per polling of Boston and Wall Street protestors that one half of one percent has ever received any form of education beyond High School?

And I suppose you know this from firsthand experience?

[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fact of the matter is that they have a very specific, precise message: we will no longer be ruled by wealth. So where did their protests start? In the exact location where the most money in the world exchanges hands daily on the backs of the American workers.

I know they have a message, and I agree with it. But there's a lot of people there who harm the entire effort. The ones who camp out there do more harm than good.

There are reasons they are unemployed. There are reasons they cannot afford to pay back their student loans. And they're tired of it.

There certainly are reasons. Have you seen them? What kind of job do you expect to get when you look like that? I'm talking the hippies. I'd hire them to work the graveyard shift at a warehouse for $10/hr, but that's about it. I wouldn't even hire them for $10/hr security. You aren't exactly gonna get rich sitting in a park playing bongos and hacky sack.

The job market is tough, which means you have to present yourself better. Nice haircut, nice smile, professional demeanor, nice clothing etc. You wanna be a hippie? Be prepared to live the hippie life, and don't complain that you don't have a job or money.

(THIS ONLY APPLIES TO THOSE HIPPIES, who unfortunately are the ones that stand out and ruin the chances of the protests accomplishing anything)

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stopped here. You understand that per polling of Boston and Wall Street protestors that one half of one percent has ever received any form of education beyond High School?

Proof? Or just more regurgitated bullshit?

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There certainly are reasons. Have you seen them? What kind of job do you expect to get when you look like that? I'm talking the hippies. I'd hire them to work the graveyard shift at a warehouse for $10/hr, but that's about it. I wouldn't even hire them for $10/hr security. You aren't exactly gonna get rich sitting in a park playing bongos and hacky sack.

The job market is tough, which means you have to present yourself better. Nice haircut, nice smile, professional demeanor, nice clothing etc. You wanna be a hippie? Be prepared to live the hippie life, and don't complain that you don't have a job or money.

(THIS ONLY APPLIES TO THOSE HIPPIES, who unfortunately are the ones that stand out and ruin the chances of the protests accomplishing anything)

I'm sorry, but not everybody who has a problem with the government is a hippie, and if you think that they're the only ones protesting, you're being lied to and you're buying it. You just sound like you have prejudices against the poor, have them all lumped into one category, and refer to them with a demeaning euphemism to make yourself feel better about your bigotry.

[Hoggen]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fact of the matter is that they have a very specific, precise message: we will no longer be ruled by wealth.

So your position is that it makes sense to group together in the middle of cities and yell " WE DON'T LIKE THIS" or "WE DON'T LIKE THAT" and have no solution and do nothing other than yell to fix whatever it is you don't like?

You say that they have a definite position: what are their definite plans of action?

Have you bothered to look at who is funding the busing of these air-heads all over the country? Have you bothered to listen to the definite agendas of said parties?

These people are "useful idiots." The people that are sending them food, busing them, and providing their website are communists and/or part of the "1 percent" they supposedly despise so much. They are looking to trade one billionaire bogeyman for another, and hoping to get a better result. And yes, I've heard them speak with my own ears. I don't need a media filter to tell me they are some fresh new wind of change or a bunch of smelly retards.

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Hoggen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So your position is that it makes sense to group together in the middle of cities and yell " WE DON'T LIKE THIS" or "WE DON'T LIKE THAT" and have no solution and do nothing other than yell to fix whatever it is you don't like?

You say that they have a definite position: what are their definite plans of action?

Have you bothered to look at who is funding the busing of these air-heads all over the country? Have you bothered to listen to the definite agendas of said parties?

These people are "useful idiots." The people that are sending them food, busing them, and providing their website are communists and/or part of the "1 percent" they supposedly despise so much. They are looking to trade one billionaire bogeyman for another, and hoping to get a better result. And yes, I've heard them speak with my own ears. I don't need a media filter to tell me they are some fresh new wind of change or a bunch of smelly retards.

a mob always has a solution in mind, even if none of them admit it when asked. the french have a holiday devoted to this solution called "bastille day."

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Hoggen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So your position is that it makes sense to group together in the middle of cities and yell " WE DON'T LIKE THIS" or "WE DON'T LIKE THAT" and have no solution and do nothing other than yell to fix whatever it is you don't like?

Is it a coincidence that the middle of the city often also contains things like court houses, capital buildings, city halls, police stations, banks and other govern/econo-centric buildings?

Or maybe they had some kind of strategy and forethought to congregating there that you're just disregarding because it doesn't match your view of the situation.

Originally Posted by Hoggen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You say that they have a definite position: what are their definite plans of action?

Just because they don't presently have a written plan to fix the last 200 years of crooked politics in America doesn't make them wrong, and it doesn't mean that they couldn't develop one given appropriate time and resources. But you're asking them to put the cart before the horse here and then discrediting them because they can't. Did the US have an exit strategy before they toppled the government in Iraq? Did the Egyptians have their new plan for government set in stone before they toppled Mubarak? That kind of stuff comes after the revolution.

Originally Posted by Hoggen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

communists

More words historically given negative connotations with no real reason for them to be bad. Do you even know what communism means? Using this word only amplifies that you don't know what you're talking about and you're just regurgitating what you heard Rush say on the way to work this morning.

[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^ here's the thing. I literally walk through these protestors on a daily basis to arrive at my office in PO Square in Boston. So, whether you like it or not, I am informed enough based on 1st hand experience, and unfortunately for you have the right to identify my opinion publically.

Even more unfortunate for you, is the fact that I have already determined your stereotype and I am absolutely blown away that I've wasted another 2.5 minutes of my day responding to your dribble.

Here's the point though - these protestors aren't protesting a goddamn thing. They are, en mass, arriving destinationless, seeking out their demographic and huddling in the pre-desginated "protest" area. They've identified no demands, and have conceded at every opportunity to law enforcements demands.

Sounds like a bunch of filthy pussies, sorry.

They do, don't they? It's a shame, because there's a legitimate gripe somewhere in there, obscured by a mass of dirty hippies playing bongos and generally goofing off.

I know what their message should be, but it seems like they're just whining that they have no money while others do.

Protesting bailouts? That's good. Protesting enormous pay and bonuses for execs of struggling companies, while the working man continually gets laid off and can't find adequate work? That's good. Just hanging around as an unemployed hippie eating free food, who doesn't even know who people like Nancy Pelosi are? That's not good. And that's what these people come off as.

I actually agree with them, but I don't like the fact that they come off as lazy, dirty hippies who are just whining. Some of them don't even really know what they're protesting, and that hurts the protest. That's why it will accomplish nothing at all.