Help me with stats for my Rogue. Been to long

[Ferok]

That's the basic understanding I've already had.

There's some static amount of aggro generated every time a melee hit lands, and a variable amount based on how much damage is done. What the balance is here is anyone's guess I think, but there was almost certainly some amount of "base" aggro for a hit.

This is part of why defensive is preferred over evasive, as evasive causes you to miss more often (and thus generate less aggro). Couple that with the fact that it doesn't force mitigation of "spike" damage, it was by far the inferior.

[Karorn]

Originally Posted by Ferok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's the basic understanding I've already had.

There's some static amount of aggro generated every time a melee hit lands, and a variable amount based on how much damage is done.

As near as I can tell a miss generates agro as well. Maybe as much agro as a hit. Same with spell resists, although in that case it seems to sometimes cause MORE hate than if the spell landed.

[Ferok]

Originally Posted by Karorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As near as I can tell a miss generates agro as well. Maybe as much agro as a hit. Same with spell resists, although in that case it seems to sometimes cause MORE hate than if the spell landed.

Some spell resists do generate at least as much aggro as a land. Maybe more. Stuns especially. I loved getting stun resists.

Never heard that about misses, but I'd be interested to know for sure. My bet is that a miss counts for 1 point of aggro (just enough to put you on the hate list) where a hit counts for something significantly more. Pretty difficult to test though.

[JayFiveAlive]

Maybe a dev could post exactly what's true with DW... I've always wondered [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Karorn]

In that case it's working off the delay of your fists due to a weapon not being in your hand.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Karorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In that case it's working off the delay of your fists due to a weapon not being in your hand.

No, it doesn't. You're NOT HITTING with your fist. I've personally done several things to prove this to myself. Reiker's test is the best evidence, but I've seen plenty first hand. If you want to believe something different, that's cool, but I defy you to post some kind of evidence stronger than that test for your premise. I'm open minded, but I doubt very seriously your ability to put your money where your mouth is in this case.

[Karorn]

Here's how you test it if you really want to see for yourself if that works that way (I'll stand by it working that way on live unless someone can supply a source to prove me wrong). Get a high level monk with his DW maxed out. Put a weapon that's faster than his fists in the offhand. Click attack and watch as you do both crushing and punching damage at the same time everytime, with the punches showing up first in the text box.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Karorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's how you test it if you really want to see for yourself if that works that way (I'll stand by it working that way on live unless someone can supply a source to prove me wrong). Get a high level monk with his DW maxed out. Put a weapon that's faster than his fists in the offhand. Click attack and watch as you do both crushing and punching damage at the same time everytime, with the punches showing up first in the text box.

Show evidence please. I've observed the exact opposite of what you are saying using 2 types of weapons (you pierce, you crush). I don't believe you! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Karorn]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

blah blah blah I insult people to feel better about myself blah blah blah

Look I'm cool and creative too! Do people like me yet? Maybe I should be more insulting!

[Hasbinbad]

Actually, I feel great about myself whether or not I insult people. I insult people that are idiots because it's fun. Sorry if that hurts your wittwe feewings Karorn, but when you come talking mad shit when you have no idea what you're talking about, what the fuck do you expect?

Do you want me to talk reeeal slowly and be reeeal sensitive to your emotions so you don't get upset and throw a tanrum like your mommy does for you?

Too fucking bad, I'm just gonna call you a fucktard and laugh.

Fucktard.

lol.