Xzerion says TR isn't shown favoritism?

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by h0tr0d (shaere) [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yup. Which is where I come back to we need to have a summit and agree upon rules for raiding.

Everyone did this a long time ago. Nilbog and Rogean decided not to enforce player-driven rules, which not only ruined what was accomplished, it ruined any chance of it ever being feasible.

[EkireiTheNecro]

God DAMN....people STILL arguing about this shit?

[Motec]

I really feel sorry for any dev who reads these boards at all.
Shut down RNF.

Every single time you guys post some shit, is 10 seconds, 10 minutes, or an hour + of time spent reading or dealing with shit that could be spent developing.

[ElanoraBryght]

I didn't come here crying about anything Motec. I stated (my version) of why boss mobs are now being killed in a hurry while massive zone trash is dumped on bystanders.

90% of the server cleans up after themselves. That doesn't mean it was ok to drop 20 mobs on bystanders in the first place.

[arduin]

It really doesn't matter how much you bitch about the raid guilds causing problems and rules lawyering, there is no solution. Period. It's not some magic set of rules that will fix everything but no one has come up with them yet. It's classic EQ, and it happened on (almost) every server.

Both the appeal and problem with classic EQ raiding is the lack of instances. No other game has the head to head competition where often times it's a single tiny detail that lets you win the fight that time, but next time the other guild knows so you better come up with something new or you may lose. And at the same time, it's always going to cause friction, because there is always going to be a winner and a loser.

Everyone who suggests that guilds take turns with a rotation or play as nice people that can enjoy losing to the competition doesn't really want to be involved in classic EQ raiding. They want the WoW style instances where everyone wins, which is fine, it is in fact what the vast majority of MMO players desire. However, the raiders here want the competition, they want the feel of seeing the other people that they're beating right next to them trying for the mob and failing. No other game has captured that, and sadly it looks like no other game will, because the genre has clearly moved away from it.

[Skope]

Originally Posted by arduin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everyone who suggests that guilds take turns with a rotation or play as nice people that can enjoy losing to the competition doesn't really want to be involved in classic EQ raiding. They want the WoW style instances where everyone wins, which is fine, it is in fact what the vast majority of MMO players desire. However, the raiders here want the competition, they want the feel of seeing the other people that they're beating right next to them trying for the mob and failing. No other game has captured that, and sadly it looks like no other game will, because the genre has clearly moved away from it.

classic live EQ had rotations and even calendar-based rotations enforced strictly by GMs. classic live EQ also had FFA where, unless your corpse disappeared, the GMs didn't care. what's difficult to ignore is the poo volcano the 2 competing guilds and their fanboys RnF verbal thrashing ultimately exacerbated the issue. spout your nonsense elsewhere

[arduin]

Originally Posted by Skope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

classic live EQ had rotations and even calendar-based rotations enforced strictly by GMs. classic live EQ also had FFA where, unless your corpse disappeared, the GMs didn't care. what's difficult to ignore is the poo volcano the 2 competing guilds and their fanboys RnF verbal thrashing exacerbated this issue. spout your nonsense elsewhere

That depends on your server, I know my server never had GM enforced anything, and neither did lots of the other servers. Well, except the GM enforced sleeper incident.

[Kruel]

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Rogeans Post on Rant and flames:

Lets get one thing straight folks. We don't answer to you.

There has been a lot of petitions lately, a lot of posts on the forums, with everyone trying to critique GM Decisions. The developers of this project put way too much time into this for us to be put on the spotlight every single time we make a decision, ESPECIALLY when you ASSUME you know all the facts. 90% of the time, you don't. Situations are handled between the staff and the players directly involved. Any dialog between a GM and a player can be considered a private matter, and will not be open to public debate. Players will divulge their interactions with GM's as they see fit, maybe giving all details and maybe not disclosing all of it, and quite possible they themselves aren't aware of every point of consideration in a staff decision.

I'm getting quite tired of everything being questioned, everyone assuming they are experts in every decision being made. Its getting old quite fast. We make decisions based on our best judgements, often discussing large impacting decisions with several staff members first. You are welcome to report anything you may believe to be unjustified use of GM privileges to the petition forum or Nilbog and myself, but this would only be in situations where you believe a GM did not act as they are instructed so, and an investigation may occur, but do not think that this suddenly privies you to all information associated with any decision. I realize that the environment for our community is a little more open than such organizations as SOE Itself, with more direct involvement in the community by the developers, but there are certain ways things need to be handled, and they wont always be agreed on by everyone, but thats how it is in any scenario. Many of us, including myself, do not play on the server. That means we spend all of our time working to better the server, and handling the issues that arise. We make decisions based on our best judgement, with no favoritism for any play character connections, so you will have to trust in our opinions for the health of the server.


Just a thought that this isnt R&F, and you are publicly bashing a guild and a server staff decision.

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Kruel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just a thought that this isnt R&F, and you are publicly bashing a guild and a server staff decision.

not my first time and won't be my last. i'm belligerent but i have a tendency to make good points

[Doors]

Honestly fuck banning these kids. Out right delete their characters, accounts, whatever then IP ban them. Once a cheater always a cheater.

Take the server population hit. Losing shitty players on your emu is not a loss, its addition by subtraction.