Discussion: Play Nice (Training, Bind Camping)

[Sniperfire]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What about rules that are easy to enforce (like bind camping)? The deterrent value of being punished for something like that is enough to make most people not do it. It's not going to burn out the GM staff since virtually no one would be dumb enough to risk doing it.

Yeah training isn't easy to catch, but that's just a reason for needing a high standard of evidence before punishing anyone. If there's not enough evidence, then just don't get involved. And most blatant training should be solved by casting root anyway. I fail to see how this is a big deal. If you don't have a rule against training there will be about a hundred times more of it.

when you enforce bind camping rules you run into problems like what if you kill a guy at his bind and he keeps spawning and attacking you (bind rushing) hoiw many times do you defend yourself before your camping him just let us pvp and fix the quests and other cs issues imo

[Amuk]

Pro's and cons for both - if you have staff willing to enforce it No Training policy is more fun. But if there isn't the support and the GM's arn't up for that commitment I wouldn't blame them.

[georgie]

training should be allowed to an extent. it shouldn't be allowed in raid zones.
ex: CT enraged 3%
monk:/fd
guild:/dead

-also think it should be that long wait for enemies to forget you. like in p99.

[Doors]

Bind camping should be legal but only if theres no exp on death from other players. Coin loot but no item loot. No training because its stupid and overshadows any actual PVP.

People who intentionally train should get like 1 week bans or something. Permanent ban seems like a bit much.

As far as cheating goes, should be a three strikes rule. Third strike = perm ban. Just instantly banning people you catch for a first offense will kill server population fast. Not that I'm sticking up for these scrubs that do use MQ and shit but perm ban right on first offense seems harsh also.

and Harrison shut the fuck up. This isn't World of Warcraft.

[Doors]

LnS might be necessary but not right off the bat of server start. Honestly I want to play on a pretty brutal PVP server and no LnS makes it all the better. Also LnS is really hard, annoying and tedious to police as a GM.

[Rushmore]

banning does nothing. Why doesn't anyone ever call for character delete?

[SearyxTZ]

Even now, I'm getting terrible flashbacks of when I was a GM and Kaahbal sent me the lowest-quality youtube video imaginable as hard proof of a Sebilis train, and I was supposed to deduce that a blurry brown pixel was Rexx training, amongst the other 40 pixel blob characters and sebillite juggernauts that they were already fighting which were taking up half the screen....

[Bardalicious]

Originally Posted by Rushmore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

banning does nothing. Why doesn't anyone ever call for character delete?

How does your account being banned with ur characters being unusable differ from character being deleted? Either way u cant play the toon any more.

[Rushmore]

Originally Posted by Bardalicious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How does your account being banned with ur characters being unusable differ from character being deleted? Either way u cant play the toon any more.

Because most people get to come off that ban and continue to do what they were banned for in the first place.

let's delete toon's and let people keep playing.

[Pudge]

on vztz it was common to say "ban" but really mean "suspend"

a true ban was called a permaban