Class that requires the least skill

[Cymeon]

I dont think wizard is easy at all. you have to time your spells depending on the tank and how he is holding aggro for starters. You have to be able to judge the length of the fight and how many spells you can cast with enough time to regen before the next fight. You need to know the different resistances of various mobs to know which spell to cast. And you need to be able to tab out and watch netflix while meditating with the ability to pop back in and nuke without your group/raid knowing.

[Dr4z3r]

Originally Posted by Cymeon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And you need to be able to tab out and watch netflix while meditating with the ability to pop back in and nuke without your group/raid knowing.

Is having a 2nd monitor cheating?

[Atmas]

Originally Posted by deakolt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So what do you guys think requires the least skill?

Soloing - Magician

Grouping - Wizard/Magician

Dungeon Crawling - Wizard/Magician

Raiding - Toss up between Wizard/Magician probably

This list makes it look like you either never played a wizard or never played with a good one.

A good wiz in addition to nuking will have stuns up to prevent heals, be rooting for CC if other CC isn't available, and be on point for evacs. The timing of an evac will either have the group loving you when you save their shit or hating you when most of them died or they felt the situation was controllable.

I've played Rogues live and here, they may have more button pushes but it certainly isn't as skillful. Most melee unless pulling just autoattack and tap the same button repeatedly when it pops.

[deakolt]

Originally Posted by Atmas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This list makes it look like you either never played a wizard or never played with a good one.

A good wiz in addition to nuking will have stuns up to prevent heals, be rooting for CC if other CC isn't available, and be on point for evacs. The timing of an evac will either have the group loving you when you save their shit or hating you when most of them died or they felt the situation was controllable.

I've played Rogues live and here, they may have more button pushes but it certainly isn't as skillful. Most melee unless pulling just autoattack and tap the same button repeatedly when it pops.

you're right i've never played a wizard and never noticed a good one. maybe the list should be all magician then.

with regards to rogues, my thought was that melee positioning takes a modicum of skill to not fuck up and thus they're more difficult than mages/wizards

well actually i think wizard/mage is still a toss up for raiding. Maybe wizards take more skill in a group/dungeon crawl setting since they have to be ready to cast the evac spell. However, any decent group is gonna have CC and probably caster interrupt coming from other sources

ps you play a wizard huh

[Atmas]

Originally Posted by deakolt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you're right i've never played a wizard and never noticed a good one. maybe the list should be all magician then.

with regards to rogues, my thought was that melee positioning takes a modicum of skill to not fuck up and thus they're more difficult than mages/wizards

well actually i think wizard/mage is still a toss up for raiding. Maybe wizards take more skill in a group/dungeon crawl setting since they have to be ready to cast the evac spell. However, any decent group is gonna have CC and probably caster interrupt coming from other sources

ps you play a wizard huh

My main on live and here have been wizards with a vast majority of my time spent on them, but between friends and alts I've played pretty much everything a decent amount except Bards, Shamans, Berserkers, and BST Lords. Even then I've played those some.

Rogues and Palies are my most enjoyed classes after Wizards and I have never really found them difficult to play. Positioning for Rogues doesn't really have any difficulty, though it can become tiresome if you are doing a kiting situation.

Wizard work was pretty chill on raids, I can't deny that. Toughest stuff was probably applying the right amount of concussions. A few oddball things later on like disentegrate this or that. But basically DPS work was just kill stuff. Even for tanks if you werent main tank and stuff wasn't being offtanked it was just attack this or that.

[azeth]

lol at the tag "video game skill lol"

you're aware there are other video games apart from MMORPG's right?

[Feachie]

i'm sure wizards are like anything else. any jackass can nuke, but it takes skill to balance your threat on the knives edge of pulling aggro off your tank so that you achieve maximum dps.

[greatdane]

Originally Posted by Feachie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i'm sure wizards are like anything else. any jackass can nuke, but it takes skill to balance your threat on the knives edge of pulling aggro off your tank so that you achieve maximum dps.

No, no. A wizard just has to make sure he doesn't waste half of his nuke by casting it when the mob is at 15% health. Unlike dots and debuffs, there's no beenfit to nuking as early as possible, so there's no threat balance - you just wait until you know you won't take aggro from nuking. You'll never have enough mana to nuke every mob more than once anyway, unless the pulls are coming so slow that it can barely be considered grouping.

[Biffins]

Have any of you actually played this game before?

[Feachie]

Originally Posted by greatdane [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, no. A wizard just has to make sure he doesn't waste half of his nuke by casting it when the mob is at 15% health. Unlike dots and debuffs, there's no beenfit to nuking as early as possible, so there's no threat balance - you just wait until you know you won't take aggro from nuking. You'll never have enough mana to nuke every mob more than once anyway, unless the pulls are coming so slow that it can barely be considered grouping.

calm down buddy. i wasn't talking about wiz in a grouping context, i should have been specific sorry.