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[Awsten_Tx]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Auto-parry Vulak once a week for 12 seconds doesn't count as excelling. 50% slow? 150 pt rune? What are the insane proc utilities? Oh right that 8 dps dot you like from Tunare.

your trolling has lots its touch since you got kicked out of every guild on p99...

[Crede]

Originally Posted by sammoHung [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I kitted up my Ranger with the Sky Cloak, Earthcaller, Tuna Whip and all the standard twink gear Fungi, Lodi Shield, etc. High AC ToV items, SS armor, etc.

Does way worse in 1v1 combat than a monk in tunnel gear. And is useless if out of mana. I think that's what Cecily is referring to.

Heh yes reminds me of this old decision tree post pretty funny.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=156572

[Goregasmic]

They're a decent melee with track and a few tools. They're fun to play. They're not the best raid toon or soloers but you guys forget that's not all there is to the game.

I got mine to 55 and put the leveling on ice for a while to focus on other things but I found myself busting him out all the time anyway for various things he's best suited for, to the point where I feel like I want to start playing him again.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They're a decent melee with track and a few tools. They're fun to play. They're not the best raid toon or soloers but you guys forget that's not all there is to the game.

I got mine to 55 and put the leveling on ice for a while to focus on other things but I found myself busting him out all the time anyway for various things he's best suited for, to the point where I feel like I want to start playing him again.

Yeah I feel like there's a lot of people who are overly focused on raiding and playing the "best" or most powerful classes. Sure, it's lots of fun the first time you start a toon out with haste, a great weapon, and fungi/ikky, just to see how much it trivializes content. But that's the thing, it trivializes content and I'd usually rather play the slow-paced frustrating game I remember, where every new upgrade is treasured.

I've been playing a mostly-SSF ranger recently and it's been great. I've got Polished Granite Tomahawk and Screaming Mace now which are a lot of fun when they proc. Went human, 20 strength. There's so much more to the game than just raiding.

[Snaggles]

Not to further muck up this poor persons post but being ready to bump can save a raid. At minimum you will save half a dozen rogues from eating dirt so they can brag about the parse they made.

Back to the topic at hand, 20 points of uncapped STR is about 1 AoB. I’ll take any chance of not giving up one of those over risking 84hps. Plus I’m 5 points from STA capping already. The answer is obvious, mock up a Magelo with what you can get now and estimate what you plan to do. If raiding isn’t in the cards, STR is probably the best path (but no ranger is hamstrung going with any other stat). Unless you are ok with picking one or two goals and likely having only good SV’s or combat stats.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Awsten_Tx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

your trolling has lots its touch since you got kicked out of every guild on p99...

I'm literally asking what are the mega powerful procs, considering I played 3 rangers to 60 and had.. all of the proc weapons cept the ST drain mace. Maybe you know something I dont! Salindrite is pretty cool. Maybe that's what you mean. I might log on to mess around with mine one of these days on a lv 1.

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

62% is pretty insane. Not sure why you’re highlighting raid stuff if all you care about is raid dps then just play a rogue.

That's such a huge if and when you proc slow in the fight and get lucky with rune procs. Fight to fight that'll bounce between -20% to -80% and you'll get those unlucky fights where you get the absolute crap beat out of you an extra 20% sure thing dps woulda been pretty good for. I don't aggregate data over an hour when I solo. That's interesting data. It's not the human lizard brain experience which only cares about current or most recent fight. I like to kill the thing quickly. Sustain is pretty neat when you've got outside heals and even then I feel like ungabunga is the better option.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not to further muck up this poor persons post but being ready to bump can save a raid. At minimum you will save half a dozen rogues from eating dirt so they can brag about the parse they made.

Back to the topic at hand, 20 points of uncapped STR is about 1 AoB. I’ll take any chance of not giving up one of those over risking 84hps. Plus I’m 5 points from STA capping already. The answer is obvious, mock up a Magelo with what you can get now and estimate what you plan to do. If raiding isn’t in the cards, STR is probably the best path (but no ranger is hamstrung going with any other stat). Unless you are ok with picking one or two goals and likely having only good SV’s or combat stats.

There's absolutely no reason those rogues can't save themselves. What is it 2 ticks on nimble vs 3 ticks? I pulled off so many emergency bumps on flurry drakes and AoW on Cec.

You can feel when agro is starting to get fucky, the mob starts whipping around clubbing dps, and at that point you put your little finger over the bump button and mentally prep yourself so that you're ready to push it when 4-digit red numbers start showing on your screen. It works pretty often if you're properly buffed.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's absolutely no reason those rogues can't save themselves. What is it 2 ticks on nimble vs 3 ticks? I pulled off so many emergency bumps on flurry drakes and AoW on Cec.

You can feel when agro is starting to get fucky, the mob starts whipping around clubbing dps, and at that point you put your little finger over the bump button and mentally prep yourself so that you're ready to push it when 4-digit red numbers start showing on your screen. It works pretty often if you're properly buffed.

It’s 12 vs 20 but a ranger bump comes with an aggro dump that saves everyone (and their offensive discs). Plus all the clerics’ sanity.

[Cecily]

Offensive discs only matter if A: your raid is in danger of wiping if the mob doesn't die immediately or B: your raid needs the mob to die immediately to fuck over another guild elsewhere. 2x damage for 12 seconds isn't going to help worth a fuck vs Velious HP in almost every circumstance, including these. (It's kinda neat vs Kunark mobs) You're a bump specialist, but so is every rogue, monk, and bard on a raid.

[Awsten_Tx]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm literally asking what are the mega powerful procs, considering I played 3 rangers to 60 and had.. all of the proc weapons cept the ST drain mace. Maybe you know something I dont! Salindrite is pretty cool. Maybe that's what you mean. I might log on to mess around with mine one of these days on a lv 1.



That's such a huge if and when you proc slow in the fight and get lucky with rune procs. Fight to fight that'll bounce between -20% to -80% and you'll get those unlucky fights where you get the absolute crap beat out of you an extra 20% sure thing dps woulda been pretty good for. I don't aggregate data over an hour when I solo. That's interesting data. It's not the human lizard brain experience which only cares about current or most recent fight. I like to kill the thing quickly. Sustain is pretty neat when you've got outside heals and even then I feel like ungabunga is the better option.

Never change cecily...