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Old 08-11-2025, 12:20 PM
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Why don't you at least tell it straight to my face. I am mentally ill, therefore I must take anti-psychotics all my life. Tapering off doesn't work after 12 years although maybe I was tapering fast admittedly.
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Old 08-11-2025, 12:34 PM
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Why don't you at least tell it straight to my face. I am mentally ill, therefore I must take anti-psychotics all my life. Tapering off doesn't work after 12 years although maybe I was tapering fast admittedly.
Cycling on and off your meds is >>Le bad!!

Stick to a steady dose and the side effects won't be so apparent.
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Old 08-11-2025, 02:27 PM
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You are ridiculous m8. I want to get rid of drugs completely and you want me to try a few more drugs. Doesn't anyone realize how stupid this sounds. Ask me, all this mental illness thing, depression, schizophrenia, bipolar, psychosis, ocd, just a bunch of made up nonsense, pseudo-science, so that big pharma can sell their magic pills. I will try to taper it off again it seems. What else can I do. Nothing. And noone's helping me.
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Why don't you at least tell it straight to my face. I am mentally ill, therefore I must take anti-psychotics all my life. Tapering off doesn't work after 12 years although maybe I was tapering fast admittedly.
If your leg got chopped off, would you be bitter that you'd have to wear a bionic leg?

I'd imagine yes. And you should feel the same about having to take drugs for the rest of your life. It sucks: for the rest of your life you'll have to order the drugs, get them from the mailbox, take them, sort them into pill containers when you go on vacation, etc.

But at the same time, you know what sucks even more? Not having a real leg or a bionic one ... or (in our case), losing sanity. Nothing sucks worse than losing your sanity, because you lose yourself, and often completely destroy your life when you do.

If you can swap out the drugs with side effects that suck (like Zyprexa) and get drugs that let you keep your sanity with only mild or no side effects, that's a win in my book. Sure, popping pills for life is an annoyance ... but if you keep getting to be you, surely it's an annoyance you can live with.
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Old 08-11-2025, 12:27 PM
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I felt that way for like, 15 years until my doc put me on Auvelity. All the rage incidents, bipolar type 2 stuff... poof. Found a balance that works for me. Tried so many different drugs in the past, too.

It was my GP who put me on the drug that finally worked, not a shrink. I also have mistrust of mental healthcare, especially under a capitalist system, but that doesn't invalidate the effectiveness of meds... if you can find the right ones. "The mechanism of action is not clearly understood" is common with damn near all drugs

Otherwise, exercise as much as you possibly can
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Old 08-11-2025, 12:32 PM
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I felt that way for like, 15 years until my doc put me on Auvelity. All the rage incidents, bipolar type 2 stuff... poof. Found a balance that works for me. Tried so many different drugs in the past, too.

It was my GP who put me on the drug that finally worked, not a shrink. I also have mistrust of mental healthcare, especially under a capitalist system, but that doesn't invalidate the effectiveness of meds... if you can find the right ones. "The mechanism of action is not clearly understood" is common with damn near all drugs

Otherwise, exercise as much as you possibly can
So how can I exercise when I'm fatigued and have a headache everyday from Olanzapine? First I must get rid of this drug and then think about exercise...
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Old 08-11-2025, 12:42 PM
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You gotta start somewhere. You do not have to become a gym maniac, it could just be a few miles per day on some nature trail or at a park. If I had a headache from a drug I had to take I'd probably just try to also treat the headache with a different drug

Modern medicine is capable of miracles and is also frustrating as shit, it's crazy
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Old 08-11-2025, 12:50 PM
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None of those psychiatrists and therapists knows wtf their pharma pills do, and yet they give them like candy. read any review of any anti-psychotic or anti-depressant on drugs.com and about more than half of the reviews are bad. My therapist gave me a prescription for 5 mg (I'm on 7.5 mg right now) so maybe that will help today. 7.5 mg feels too much. I am just worried about this:

https://www.google.com/search?as_st=...pe=&tbs=&udm=2
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Old 08-11-2025, 12:56 PM
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None of those psychiatrists and therapists knows wtf their pharma pills do, and yet they give them like candy. read any review of any anti-psychotic or anti-depressant on drugs.com and about more than half of the reviews are bad. My therapist gave me a prescription for 5 mg (I'm on 7.5 mg right now) so maybe that will help today. 7.5 mg feels too much. I am just worried about this:

https://www.google.com/search?as_st=...pe=&tbs=&udm=2
And yet when I ask any doctor for a valium they send in a D.A.R.E. officer to explain why I shouldn't be addicted to drugs.
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Old 08-11-2025, 12:53 PM
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Ok I get it this anti-psychotic medication thing is my problem and since you don't take the same drug, you can't help me. I just want to know from YOU THIS:

If I tried 4 times to get rid of it cold-turkey with no success and a fast taper-off with no success, and I spoke to my therapist about that and she said I should just take them for life. Should I just give up and take those olanzapine pills all my life and not give a fk? I will ignore everything then and let it be. I always hated free will and that agency thing. Like look at me I go to the gym, I take care of my body, I am strong and you are weak, I am much better than you. This is the energy some people who go to the gym give me, TO BE HONEST. Am I the only one?

I tried enough times to get rid of this anti-psychotic with no success. I will give up everything now and lay it in the hands of God. Since it is said that God knows what is spoken and done in secret, he knows the hearts of every human, so he is the one who is responsible, not me. I don't know everything, God does. So let me just take my pills then and be quiet, I think that's what I'm gonna do.

Let's see though if the 5 mg pill is better for me than 7.5 mg.
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Old 08-11-2025, 12:55 PM
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Well, something's gonna get us all some day... I have holes in my brain but not really sure how they got there. Was it drugs? Alcohol abuse? I've done a lot of those, both officially and unofficially

I mean, even ol' tylenol isn't understood perfectly

I got a jar of Devil's Club in Alaska last week and that shit works wonders on my bad knee, no idea why, possibly just a psychosomatic effect
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