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Old 03-17-2010, 09:22 AM
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With a weapon like the Bloodmoon, I really should be using 1HS.. I was always in the mind set that 2HS would be better for a Shadowknight. IDK maybe thats because when I started EQ I was 13, and that thought had stuck with me still to this day.
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Old 03-17-2010, 09:44 AM
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Those are the kind of drops people loose sleep over?

Pretty sure everything dropping off these raid bosses will be obsolete in a few months.

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Old 03-17-2010, 10:09 AM
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With a weapon like the Bloodmoon, I really should be using 1HS.. I was always in the mind set that 2HS would be better for a Shadowknight. IDK maybe thats because when I started EQ I was 13, and that thought had stuck with me still to this day.
Knights predominately used 2 handed weapons until much later. The concept of the "knight 1h" wasn't in classic EQ and a standard 1h just couldn't compete in terms of DPS with a 2h because it had to be balanced for duel wield.

I remember the Primal Velium Knight's Sword in sleepers, and maybe one other one (or class specific?) in NToV that was pretty drool worthy. They got a little more common as casual loot in SoL and PoP as well. I don't even think the PVKS was initially in sleepers, I seem to remember that was added later but I can't find anything about that.
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Old 03-17-2010, 10:17 AM
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Knights predominately used 2 handed weapons until much later. The concept of the "knight 1h" wasn't in classic EQ and a standard 1h just couldn't compete in terms of DPS with a 2h because it had to be balanced for duel wield.

I remember the Primal Velium Knight's Sword in sleepers, and maybe one other one (or class specific?) in NToV that was pretty drool worthy. They got a little more common as casual loot in SoL and PoP as well. I don't even think the PVKS was initially in sleepers, I seem to remember that was added later but I can't find anything about that.
I don't remember the specific date when it was added, but I seem to remember pre-luclin. An NPC appeared outside that would trade a Primal Velium Warsword or Primal Velium Hammer for a Knight's Sword or Fist Wraps. This was done at the same time as the rework of damage/delay & stats on 2h weapons to be more appealing. Knights were also rewarded with higher ratio 1h weapons to compensate for the lack of dual-wield. Such as the Knight Sword.
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Old 03-17-2010, 10:19 AM
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First 1handers I remember being decent for paladin was the sword of the morning, jeldorin, and massive dragonclaw shard.

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2001年10月13日18時52分 リンク EasternWastesのST入り口 Loc -7400 , 160 にPlate着たDwfが追加されています。
話をしてみると

You say, 'Hail, Garath the Trader'

Garath the Trader says 'Hail to ya Traveller, and well met! My Name's Garath, a warrior by trade, though I do dabble in some merchanting on the side. My exploring brought me here, and I saw some wonderous things. I ventured inside this ancient tomb with some friends, and oh! The horrors we encountered!. I barely made it out alive, but I did manage to pick up some weapons to [trade].

You say, 'what is trade'

Garath the Trader says 'Interested in a trade, are ya? Well, let me tell ya.. I headed into this tomb in hopes of getting a sword I could use, maybe a warhammer.. Humm, yeah a hammer woulda been good also.. Anyhow, I was unlucky in finding those, but I did manage to get a couple weapons... Sadly, they're really more suited to a [Monk] or a [Knight], not really much use to a warrior like myself at all.

You say, 'what is knight'

Garath the Trader says 'Knight? Yeah, I don't make much distinction, paladin or shadow knight, they're all knights to me. Well, look here, I got two swords from inside the tomb, but I'll be damned if either of em was suited for a warrior. Clearly a knight's blade, what bad luck for me. I was hopin for a good warsword. That's why I`m standin out here ya know? I was hopin I could find someone who might swap me either a primal or priceless warsword, and take one of these knightly swords in trade.

PrimalかPricelessのWarsword渡せばよりKnight的な剣に変えてくれるようです
で さっそく先ほど拾ったPriceless Velium Warswordを渡してみます
Pacth後はこんな性能。

Priceless Velium Warsword
Magic Lore ND
1hs Dry 20 Dmg 13 DmgBonus 0 AC 5
Status ALL +5 HP 25 Mana 25 SV ALL +5
Class WAR PAL RNG SHD BRD ROG Race ALL

渡すと、

Garath the Trader says 'Ah, excellent! Guess standin out here in the cold proved worthwhile for me after all. You take that weapon and enjoy it, I know I`ll be getting some use of this one. Safe travel to ya, friend!

You gain experience!!

Priceless Velium Knight's Sword
Magic Lore ND
1hs Dry 20 Dmg 20 DmgBonus 0 AC 5
Status ALL +5 HP 25 Mana 25 SV ALL +5
Class PAL SHD Race ALL

が貰えました。
PrimalならPrimalのPricelessならPricelessのKnight's Swordに交換してくれるようです。

Monk用の1HBの交換Questもあるようです
(噂では15/20の1HBになると聞いてます)
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Old 03-17-2010, 10:35 AM
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I suppose I will stick with 2hs for now then. The extra AC from a shield would be nice, but I cant find anything decent in the 1hs department that would be worthy. Atleast not yet..
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Old 03-17-2010, 11:50 AM
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Yea, I don't remember 1h really getting big until velious. Frostwrath ftw.

Rest of thread is, eh.
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Old 03-17-2010, 12:07 PM
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I don't remember the specific date when it was added, but I seem to remember pre-luclin. An NPC appeared outside that would trade a Primal Velium Warsword or Primal Velium Hammer for a Knight's Sword or Fist Wraps. This was done at the same time as the rework of damage/delay & stats on 2h weapons to be more appealing. Knights were also rewarded with higher ratio 1h weapons to compensate for the lack of dual-wield. Such as the Knight Sword.
Thanks for clarifying. I remember feeling lucky that I got a 2-handed weapon, because had a one handed weapon dropped I knew that I'd be forced to loot it despite it being awful for paladins.

I remember the revamp you're talking about for 2 handed weapons. That's when 35 delay became important for a 2 handed weapon, as that was the cutoff for getting the extra damage bonus. I thought it was related to the knights swords, but I wasn't sure.

For some reason I remember testing out the damage bonuses in fear. No idea what I was doing in fear though...

Also, Nilbog cites good info w.r.t. Jeldorin and MDCS. I think Jeldorin was from Chardok 2.0 though, which is technically post-velious. I remember trying hard to get it, and I never set foot in Chardok prior to the revamp.

MDCS was what I remember of as the prototype knight weapon, don't recall anything with a damage/delay comparable to a 2 hander that was available prior to that.

Thanks Loke, Frostwrath was the NToV sword I was thinking of. Never dropped for me. In fact, I never got a knight 1h until that group heal sword from Time.

Thanks for the clarifications guys. Nice walk down memory lane.
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Old 03-17-2010, 12:28 PM
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Just out of curiosity:

With regards to the recent changes made to boss mobs, is Draco still doing the AoE Fear or is he doing the AoE Magi Strike now?
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