Ranger ac parsing (I'm serious)

[Jimjam]

Dodge and parry are shite. Defence increases avoidance more than they do. Sk has better defence so much better avoidance.

[sogundordor]

Goregasmic you've found something interesting~

about "Riposte+Dodge+Parry" skill
ranger: 185+170+220=575
sk: 200+155+205=560
*sk is 2.6% lower than ranger~

in my data:
ranger average "Riposte+Dodge+Parry" = 22.65%
sk average "Riposte+Dodge+Parry" = 24.77%
*sk is 8.5% higher than ranger~

sk is is doing better at lower skill~ damn why?!
perhaps its some kind of game mechanics, "The order is: Parry/Block --> Riposte --> Dodge --> Shield Block." something like that~

Oh wait, i can check the logs now~ let me see~
ranger parry:9.8%, riposte: 6.4%, dodge: 8.3%
sk parry:11.7%, riposte:7.5%, dodge:8.5%


*ummm... chance of parry is not only parry skill, its also related to something like Defense? this is something new i was only focusing on mitigation~

[Jimjam]

Imagine if dodge/parry/riposte are being triggered on misses instead of swings or hits haha

[Salaryman]

My AC is 1 million.

[Snaggles]

Classes very well can have some baked in advantage regardless of the displayed AC number. Call it whatever you want. Comparing Ranger to Knight mitigation isn’t the same, knights to monks/warriors, etc.

All the reason to just beat them on the dps parse with a ranger. It’s more fun anyways.

[Keebz]

Did anyone parse with spell ac versus armor ac? IIRC spell AC is different in certain ways. Probably won't make a difference, but worth validating.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Keebz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did anyone parse with spell ac versus armor ac? IIRC spell AC is different in certain ways. Probably won't make a difference, but worth validating.

True to the intent of the original post, I feel you raised the most important question.If worn AC is broken but spell buff AC is not (or less so for rangers), the Ranger spells especially when cast on themselves have far more meaning. This logic might carry forward to the Druid who also has a Coat-line buff but is limited to leather.

Call of Earth and Thorncoat alone are 56 AC, Skin like Nature is an extra 16. These all last at minimum one hour. There are some blocking issues but these can be sorted situationally. Dain Hammer won’t stack with Thorncoat; Ring 8/9/10 and Shissar won’t stack with Call of Earth, Aego/PoTG/Heroism won’t stack with SoN. Rangers get Feet Like Cat which is another tickle of AC via AGI but I haven’t ever cast it.

I tend to run around with Arch Shielding and R9 clicked but if there was a reasonable argument for the AC versions, if tanking in a group, I’m all for it. Also, I’m too lazy to test this [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].

[Duik]

Maybe take that hint Mr Sewerageman.

Literally.
Nobody.
Cares.
About.
Red.

[Jimjam]

IMO the differences in ranger tanking in xp groups are most pronounced between those that appear to use Coe/thorns and those who don't.

273 attempts, 61 average hit, 60 Iksar warrior with 204 worn AC and potg.

Will report back without potg. yah small sample size, but I had no heal available [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Jimjam]

172 attempts, 59 average hit, 60 Iksar warrior with 204 worn AC and no potg.


small sample sizes, but no drastic difference in incoming damage between potg and no potg. Certainly I'd suggest any effect is smaller than the noise of RNG.