starter points for monk

[DeathsSilkyMist]

All in to STA is the way to go for most people. STR and DEX is always easiest to cap, especially if you ever group/raid and get buffed.

Avatar + Focus of Spirit = 167 STR and 160 DEX just from buffs. Iksars and Human Monks start with at least 75 STR and 75 DEX, so you are already at 242 STR and 235 DEX without gear.

You're only getting 50 STA from buffs via Riotous Health, so you still need quite a bit more STA from gear. Capping out your STA via gear also means you can save a buff slot by not needing Riotous Health.

At full BiS you should be capped on all of your main stats, so it won't matter as much if you are planning on going full BiS. If you are really gunning for full BiS, CHA would be the best stat as you'll never cap it in BiS gear. You'll get better vendor prices and a better chance at getting Divine Intervention to trigger.

[Videri]

I think for the vast majority of players, one can't assume they'll get Avatar weapons. Especially post-Awakening.

One could have the shaman cast Str and Dex and then FOS for a similar effect, I suppose.

[Videri]

As for Cha, I haven't seen anyone cast DI on a monk so far. I can't imagine playing 99.99% of your game time with more charisma, getting very little value from it, just so on that 0.01% of the time you can maybe get saved from dying by a DI.

There's min-maxing and there's "min-maxing."

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Videri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As for Cha, I haven't seen anyone cast DI on a monk so far. I can't imagine playing 99.99% of your game time with more charisma, getting very little value from it, just so on that 0.01% of the time you can maybe get saved from dying by a DI.

There's min-maxing and there's "min-maxing."

I agree, CHA is only if you want to go full BiS and maximize your points, but it's not really necessary. I'd still do 20 STA so I can save a buff slot by not needing Riotous Health.

Originally Posted by Videri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One could have the shaman cast Str and Dex and then FOS for a similar effect, I suppose.

Indeed, you'll just be using 1 extra buff slot, which isn't the end of the world. You'll still be at basically 200 STR and DEX without gear in that scenario.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Solist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Max dex. You don't cap it with gear.

It is the only tangible way to increase aggro you have when being relied on to tank, and once you're geared you're tanking most things fairly well. Nor do you have the buff slots available to stack dex with fos, nor avatar. 15 slot buff/debuff limits are important to remember when thinking about starting stats.

And JimJam, that is an abomination of a monk magelo. Noone in their right mind would gear a monk that way. Nor is it even max HP for a monk on this server so it's not even named right mate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The increase in proc rate from dex is so completely minimal that it's not worth focusing points into

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The increase in proc rate from dex is so completely minimal that it's not worth focusing points into

Unless you’re a warrior. I’ve worked hard to maintain 170+ unbuffed dex every step along the way. The easier you can get it to 255 with the least amount of buffs the better. 170 base plus VoG (25) + focus (60) gets you there. If you can’t get it to 255, the more the better. No point in playing a tank who can’t reliably spend most of their time being the tank. It is worth making sacrifices for in other areas.

For most classes I whole heartedly agree. For monks with Tstaff, extra dexterity is always welcome but it’s doubtful you’ll find yourself as the tank in situations where it matters very much.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unless you’re a warrior. I’ve worked hard to maintain 170+ unbuffed dex every step along the way. The easier you can get it to 255 with the least amount of buffs the better. 170 base plus VoG (25) + focus (60) gets you there. If you can’t get it to 255, the more the better. No point in playing a tank who can’t reliably spend most of their time being the tank. It is worth making sacrifices for in other areas.

For most classes I whole heartedly agree. For monks with Tstaff, extra dexterity is always welcome but it’s doubtful you’ll find yourself as the tank in situations where it matters very much.

I thought they extensively parsed this and proved that you get like less than 1% increased proc rate chance from stacking Dex...or something ridiculously low like that