iksar necro

[Toxigen]

c u boys in 30 pages

[Duik]

A Necromancer is just a Shadow Knight in a dress! DSM

[Vivitron]

I swapped some gear around on my 60 ench and if I didn't screw it up:

20 sta: 48 hp
20 int sub 200: 222ish mana
20 int post 200: 116ish mana

I went int on my iksar necro and I'm at ~160 int at 54. Rolled him with the expectation that I won't gear him enough to hit 200 int. Not sure it was the right choice but at least it's not a huge difference.

[Vexenu]

I think at the high end the debate is completely academic. When you've got several +100 mana/HP items loaded with INT, the added +25 INT or STA is pretty meaningless for a Necro. Even the extra 60 HP from STA will be functionally unnoticeable for both solo and group/raid play at that point. However, I think that pumping INT gives more flexibility for gearing during the leveling process, and allows you the breathing room to heavily gear in favor of raw +HP while still maintaining a decent mana pool.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think at the high end the debate is completely academic. When you've got several +100 mana/HP items loaded with INT, the added +25 INT or STA is pretty meaningless for a Necro. Even the extra 60 HP from STA will be functionally unnoticeable for both solo and group/raid play at that point. However, I think that pumping INT gives more flexibility for gearing during the leveling process, and allows you the breathing room to heavily gear in favor of raw +HP while still maintaining a decent mana pool.

Yeah none of it matters much in the long run. There are enough good + cheap caster items that will make up for whatever deficiency you have. Luckily Necros are good at farming.

The way I see it, if you care about starting stats, you are probably looking at the endgame. That is when they matter the most due to scaling. Since INT is much easier to cap, you are going to eventually get zero mana from your +25 INT, where your +25 STA will last much longer. If you end up doing BiS in every slot, you'll cap both. At that point if you are aiming for full BiS, you would plan all of your gear ahead of time so you get the exact stats you want. You probably aren't asking this question on the forums, however, if you are already going that hard.

[Samoht]

STR is the answer. Running around with encumbrance constantly at 74/75 sucks when looting simple PP will always push you over.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

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Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

STR is the answer. Running around with encumbrance constantly at 74/75 sucks when looting simple PP will always push you over.

Basically any class/race combo can boost their STR by 50 if you have Thick Banded Belt, Gauntlets of Potence, and Mask of War bagged for when you need to go back to a merchant. That plus the standard cheap WR bags should be able to get you through any farming session just fine. You also have Bind/Gate for teleporting back to merchants.

STR can be a good starting stat on low STR races when you are making a character without any twink items/money. Like an SSF character or your first character on a server. Anyone who is twinking can get around low STR with money.

[Jimjam]

Really surprised to learn iksar can wear thick banded belt / gauntlets of potence. Thanks for that tip, DSM!

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Really surprised to learn iksar can wear thick banded belt / gauntlets of potence. Thanks for that tip, DSM!

No problem!

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, I'd rather wear my coldain skin gloves and my bone-clasped girdle.

The idea is that you have your STR items bagged for when you are running back to a merchant. You only need to put it on once you get to a point where slower movement is becoming an issue. Necromancers have bind/gate, so they can also bind next to a merchant to save time that way. Casters have plenty of options to overcome having a bit less STR due to not dumping into it at character creation. Mask of War is a clickie, so you don't need to have it equipped at all times.

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No where did he claim to think people cared that he doesn’t care. Not sure why you’d would assume that about him. He simply doesn’t care about your opinion, which is a choice he is capable of, despite whatever information you think you bring to the table.

The fact that you are trying to continue a conversation with him(and claiming he’s a troll) when he explicitly expressed his desire not to converse with you makes you a troll at this point. All you continue to do is provide evidence that you should be banned.

Why bother posting this? It is the same problem as Elizondo. You are posting your baseless and nonsensical opinion about me for no reason. Nobody asked for it, nobody cares, and it has nothing to do with the topic at hand. If you think I have said something wrong, make a contribution to the thread so we can all learn something. At present, you are contributing nothing except attacking other people. That is actual trolling. Please stick to the topic and hand instead of attacking people in a vain attempt to discredit them.

[Samoht]

Yeah, I'd rather wear my coldain skin gloves and my bone-clasped girdle.