Level 60 v Level 60 - no gear

[Castle2.0]

Originally Posted by sajbert [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bard DA sounds cute but if we're gonna theorycraft this battle the wizard could just yonder if stun doesn't land due to DA and the repeat the kill.

a wiz with self-buffs should survive a harmtouch too.

Yonder sounds cute, but good luck with your 50 distance unlucky yonder with 5 second recast.

If not, bard kites for another 10 min until DA back online =)

[Kruel]

most likely wizard. Necro would use shadow step and just lifetap the bard quickly. Wouldnt really be much of a fight with harm shield / invis etc.

Wizard also gets invis also so most DPS would be dead if they can get an invis off. Of course if a naked enchanter wants to try to keep a lvl 60 mezzed while chain nuking i have a hard time believing he wouldnt go oom on allot of classes.

My vote is necro or wizard. Necro have low lvl dispell that costs almost no mana also. So they can simply dispell DOTs or cure them.

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by Kruel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

most likely wizard. Necro would use shadow step and just lifetap the bard quickly. Wouldnt really be much of a fight with harm shield / invis etc.

Wizard also gets invis also so most DPS would be dead if they can get an invis off. Of course if a naked enchanter wants to try to keep a lvl 60 mezzed while chain nuking i have a hard time believing he wouldnt go oom on allot of classes.

My vote is necro or wizard. Necro have low lvl dispell that costs almost no mana also. So they can simply dispell DOTs or cure them.

Bards have a few options for seeinvis that don't require an instrument. Idk if taps would land consistently, though IIRC they are or at least were unresistable on red server? I don't remember a necro being present when my bard all v alled in the Arena a year or two ago, but very few spells got through and those that did were double digit partials. Procs did seem to work regularly against resist songs, but only a few (tstaff and ranger sky bow) which were pretty devastating.

[Kruel]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bards have a few options for seeinvis that don't require an instrument. Idk if taps would land consistently, though IIRC they are or at least were unresistable on red server? I don't remember a necro being present when my bard all v alled in the Arena a year or two ago, but very few spells got through and those that did were double digit partials. Procs did seem to work regularly against resist songs, but only a few (tstaff and ranger sky bow) which were pretty devastating.

Shadowstep and just chain lifetap will wreck a bard. then shadowstep and keep lifetapping. naked bards just dont have an easy way of killing a necro since their nuke heals so much.

now Bards are great against allot of other classes also though.

Necro would have a hard time against a wizard. Every class has its bane

[fortior]

When naked and starting unbuffed, invisibility also becomes relevant

[Castle2.0]

Originally Posted by fortior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When naked and starting unbuffed, invisibility also becomes relevant

Won a few fights on RZ as a rogue because of this =)

Also, necro lifetap is like 330 and all spells are reduced to 66% in PvP, so like 220.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Castle2.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Won a few fights on RZ as a rogue because of this =)

Also, necro lifetap is like 330 and all spells are reduced to 66% in PvP, so like 220.

Advantage Wood Elf Rogue in Kunark as it can forage an Iksar Phalange to back stab ...

Is that permitted in the rules?

Hell, if you start naked, can you just beat up mobs in zone to take their loot while the pvp battle is happening?

Also, mind trick spell have varying effectiveness depending on which pvp ruleset / era is being used. Like is this duel, arena, red server???

[Seducio]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

depending on which pvp ruleset / era is being used. Like is this duel, arena, red server???

This era. So this server but in the arena. Think like the Best of the Best contests that were run in the past but with any of the 14 classes as a participant that is level 60 with no gear, no items, etc. while having all spells and all songs.

[Seducio]

Initial spell choice, GCD, and RNG all would play a part of who wins in addition to class choice.

As in both skill and luck would matter in these fights.

[Seducio]

Don't want to overemphasize luck actually. It's probably that skill >> luck most of the time while every now and again luck > skill.