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Old 01-14-2023, 11:05 PM
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nah i predict in 2024 putin will be claiming that conceeding the crimean territory for luhansk and donetsk is a massive victory for the russian people.

this is after 500,000 russian soldiers are dead, the ruble hyper inflates, and every top brass oligarch in russia /tells Putin, 'Make this look good, or you are dead'
I bet he will just turn off the lights to his prison cell and not the earth, hope you're right.
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Old 01-14-2023, 11:10 PM
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nah i predict in 2024 putin will be claiming that conceeding the crimean territory for luhansk and donetsk is a massive victory for the russian people.

this is after 500,000 russian soldiers are dead, the ruble hyper inflates, and every top brass oligarch in russia /tells Putin, 'Make this look good, or you are dead'
I think he keeps all his GAINZ and nato just accepts it in the name of peace

Then we get the real war in 2026(after the brief Irish war next year)

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Old 01-14-2023, 11:18 PM
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I think he keeps all his GAINZ and nato just accepts it in the name of peace

Then we get the real war in 2026(after the Irish reunification war next year)
he can't keep it, not if NATO wants to save face. Forget about nukes. Nukes are a saber rattle to the chronically terrified, people who are gonna be scared regardless of what goes on in the world, thats who the nuclear sabre rattling is aimed at.

Anyone with half a brain understands that M.A.D. (mutually assured destruction) is still as effective a deterrent as it was during the entire cold war.

Putin isn't stupid or insane, if you ever think you're enemy is stupid or insane, then you've already lost. Putin knows that if he so much as primes a nuclear missile, then 5,000 other missiles are gonna be primed to go. all the nuke talk is entirely for the media.

Not to over simplify, like any major conflict, this is super complicated and there are machinations in play that civilians like us will never know about or understand.

one thing that is very easy to understand is that ANYONE who uses a nuclear weapon, will no longer have a country.

It is in any leaders' best interest, to NOT use a nuclear weapon, if they intend to remain the leader, or intend to remain being a nation altogether.

This is a basic overview of what such a conflict might look like, you'll realize that anyone who is smart enough to make a nuke, also knows exactly what this video suggests. This video also explains very well why it is necessary to have 5,000 nuclear weapons.



If you wanna know more, there are other related vids on that channel.
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Old 01-14-2023, 11:24 PM
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he can't keep it, not if NATO wants to save face. Forget about nukes. Nukes are a saber rattle to the chronically terrified, people who are gonna be scared regardless of what goes on in the world, thats who the nuclear sabre rattling is aimed at.

Anyone with half a brain understands that M.A.D. (mutually assured destruction) is still as effective a deterrent as it was during the entire cold war.

Putin isn't stupid or insane, if you ever think you're enemy is stupid or insane, then you've already lost. Putin knows that if he so much as primes a nuclear missile, then 5,000 other missiles are gonna be primed to go. all the nuke talk is entirely for the media.

Not to over simplify, like any major conflict, this is super complicated and there are machinations in play that civilians like us will never know about or understand.

one thing that is very easy to understand is that ANYONE who uses a nuclear weapon, will no longer have a country.

It is in any leaders' best interest, to NOT use a nuclear weapon, if they intend to remain the leader, or intend to remain being a nation altogether.

This is a basic overview of what such a conflict might look like, you'll realize that anyone who is smart enough to make a nuke, also knows exactly what this video suggests. This video also explains very well why it is necessary to have 5,000 nuclear weapons.



If you wanna know more, there are other related vids on that channel.
NATO only has US, UK, and France that can nuke and that will never happen.

Ukraine has been without elecricity for months now and they're probably real tired of Zelensky's bullshit. Holy Russia can just wait him out and his people will take care of the problem.

I'll watch your video now.

e: nevermind its way too long
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Old 01-14-2023, 11:26 PM
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ahhh he crazy this is just a coincidence flying scroll? No way.

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Old 01-14-2023, 11:32 PM
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This is a basic overview of what such a conflict might look like
Pretty much every anallyst everywhre has always been wrong about anything.

I got news for them, this is how it will look like

....

BOOOM!

"what the fuck!"

"What happened!"

"EVERYONE CHILL EVERYONE CHILL!"

"IS IT TH EEND??!?!?!"

"no calm down it was a powerplant exploison you IDIOT"

"NO IT WAS ALIENS!"

"SHUT UP FUCK YOU!"

"breaking news putin says: I wanrned you what would happen, if all military aggression does not cease around the world, we all will be forced to bring the world to its knees, russia has turned down its weapons, china as well, it is up to the west to decide, does everyone on earth die or do we have peace"

"WHAT THE FUICK RREEEE!!!"
"FUCK THEM STAND OUR GROUND FUCK YOU!

"CIVIL WAR FUCK YOU!!!"

"jibjob greetings messages magna: its time to move to the cheese caves"

Antichrist rises.
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Old 01-14-2023, 11:33 PM
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Now take a look at this map:

https://liveuamap.com/

it's an open source intelligence site for this conflict, the eastern territories in bold red (luhansk and donetsk, which have been pro russian) are expected to be turned over to russia, along with I assume a portion eastern ukrainian territory where there are large russian populations, many of these people want to be russians anyway, I say let em go.

Giving up this territory will still enable the russians to access the black sea, netting them 2 more warm water ports. (prior to the annexation of crimea, only kaliningrad was ice free year round, and kaliningrad has a littany of its own EU problems) There is no way the western world is gonna allow crimea or kherson to become another territory like kaliningrad, the only reason the soviets got it was because at the end of WW2 no one was in a position to tell stalin to fuck off, and frankly everyone was so sick of fighting they were like yeah ok whatever you can have it.

Crimea, Kherson and most of Zaporizhia will return to ukrainian control. Now each country has made a "gain" and can go tell their respective medias about how they got the "better end of the deal"

then we just chill and wait for the next geo-political dust up, and all the smart money is on Taiwan.
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Old 01-14-2023, 11:37 PM
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Pretty much every anallyst everywhre has always been wrong about anything.

I got news for them, this is how it will look like

....

BOOOM!

"what the fuck!"

"What happened!"

"EVERYONE CHILL EVERYONE CHILL!"

"IS IT TH EEND??!?!?!"

"no calm down it was a powerplant exploison you IDIOT"

"NO IT WAS ALIENS!"

"SHUT UP FUCK YOU!"

"breaking news putin says: I wanrned you what would happen, if all military aggression does not cease around the world, we all will be forced to bring the world to its knees, russia has turned down its weapons, china as well, it is up to the west to decide, does everyone on earth die or do we have peace"

"WHAT THE FUICK RREEEE!!!"
"FUCK THEM STAND OUR GROUND FUCK YOU!

"CIVIL WAR FUCK YOU!!!"

"jibjob greetings messages magna: its time to move to the cheese caves"

Antichrist rises.
I know you pine for the end of the world, and god knows this world deserves to burn

but i can't get over the feeling that we just aren't lucky enough for this world to end. I'm 99% sure that the world is just gonna suck super hard for a few millenia, then however this experiment is intended to end will play out
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Old 01-14-2023, 11:38 PM
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Now take a look at this map:

https://liveuamap.com/

it's an open source intelligence site for this conflict, the eastern territories in bold red (luhansk and donetsk, which have been pro russian) are expected to be turned over to russia, along with I assume a portion eastern ukrainian territory where there are large russian populations, many of these people want to be russians anyway, I say let em go.

Giving up this territory will still enable the russians to access the black sea, netting them 2 more warm water ports. (prior to the annexation of crimea, only kaliningrad was ice free year round, and kaliningrad has a littany of its own EU problems) There is no way the western world is gonna allow crimea or kherson to become another territory like kaliningrad, the only reason the soviets got it was because at the end of WW2 no one was in a position to tell stalin to fuck off, and frankly everyone was so sick of fighting they were like yeah ok whatever you can have it.

Crimea, Kherson and most of Zaporizhia will return to ukrainian control. Now each country has made a "gain" and can go tell their respective medias about how they got the "better end of the deal"

then we just chill and wait for the next geo-political dust up, and all the smart money is on Taiwan.
Crimea had a fraudulent election, apparently [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 01-14-2023, 11:41 PM
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Check this out though:

Ukraine GDP per capita: 4,835.57 USD (2021)

Russia GDP per capita: 12,194.78 USD (2021)

Which country better to live in?
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