Agro with the new patch

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nerf enchanters?

I remember enchanters being afraid to slow on raids if they were on tash duty.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I remember enchanters being afraid to slow on raids if they were on tash duty.

I don’t raid but slow has a decent amount of hate

I still haven’t logged in since the patch (what a waste, I know…) but if I slowed a mob charmed pet was tanking even with pet taunt on it would gank aggro. Tash had a good amount too pre-patch

[Reiwa]

It may be that slows and associated debuffs were a lot more threat than they have been on most eqemu servers

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah I know but one post is saying shaman slow, which has historically always been huge aggro on p99, is now *not* doing much aggro at all. Then Allishya said "sham/enc slow is crazy aggro too".

Shamans saying their aggro has been lowered suggests an aggro cap has been put on their spells.

Warriors saying shaman aggro is crazy high suggests warriors have received an even more severe cap on their procs than shaman spells.

Isn’t this exactly what the patch notes claims to have happened?

[magnetaress]

I remember agro being harder in classic for melees and fast weapons almost pretty much being #1 where as procs where toats hit or miss.

[magnetaress]

So patch is probably more authentic and in era.

Use guys is just used to training wheelz.

[magnetaress]

Even really crappy fast weapons like jojos and thulian claws cuz 19 dly was better for agro than basically everything. Outside of like a few special cases.


Like it was a tifecta of speed > dmg > procs (with few outliers except in special cases).

Iirc.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even really crappy fast weapons like jojos and thulian claws cuz 19 dly was better for agro than basically everything. Outside of like a few special cases.


Like it was a tifecta of speed > dmg > procs (with few outliers except in special cases).

Iirc.

On live the aggro of non-damaging elements of a proc (ac debuffs, stuns, etc) scaled with the hp of the target. That doesn’t seem to happen here - stun seems to be hundreds of aggro regardless of whether the target has 18 or 32000 hp.

[long.liam]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On live the aggro of non-damaging elements of a proc (ac debuffs, stuns, etc) scaled with the hp of the target. That doesn’t seem to happen here - stun seems to be hundreds of aggro regardless of whether the target has 18 or 32000 hp.

That was true before the current patch. Now the hate does seem to scale with mob hp. Tested it with multiple toons in multiple zones to verify.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by long.liam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That was true before the current patch. Now the hate does seem to scale with mob hp. Tested it with multiple toons in multiple zones to verify.

Amazing news if true.