It's time to revert the clickie nerf

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When the clickies weren't nerfed, Kittens and Azure Guard were regulars in ToV contesting content. They were casual raiding guilds at the time. They got more kills back then than they do now whenever content is contested.

With the clickie nerfs and with rooted dragons the smaller guilds are basically cut off from a lot of content. They typically just cannot field the numbers due to their more casual nature.

VQ and Riot don't need the clickies to win content, they already have the numbers to do so without the clickies. It is why they have been able to continue doing all of the game's raid content after both nerfs.

Erm isn't AG one of the factions that made up VQ?

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Erm isn't AG one of the factions that made up VQ?

Yes, and kittens goes on quakes.

[Toxigen]

oh boy here we go 200 pages inc

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

oh boy here we go 200 pages inc

Lol

[Jimjam]

Pretty sure AG used to be able to compete more back then because it wasn’t a dead tag due to mergevolution. Nothing to do with clickies. AG never shied away from huge number kills either anyway.

Afaik Kittens have always been in to lower number stuff and more moderated eq instead of 24/7 socking. Correct me if i’m wrong Kitty guildies. Also doesn’t seem that relevant to clickies.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty sure AG used to be able to compete more back then because it wasn’t a dead tag due to mergevolution. Nothing to do with clickies. AG never shied away from huge number kills either anyway.

Afaik Kittens have always been in to lower number stuff and more moderated eq instead of 24/7 socking. Correct me if i’m wrong Kitty guildies. Also doesn’t seem that relevant to clickies.

Correct my dude

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Correct my dude

Incorrect. Azure Guard and Kittens could compete more because they didn't need to field 100+ members to kill content before the nerfs. They were a big enough casual guild to where they could field around half of what Aftermath or Riot had, which was enough to compete. Now you can't do that.

[Hetjan]

Nerfs are classic but:

Item Recharge Nerfs
Reclaim pet nerfs ( never existed in classic that reclaim would do anything but give you 100% of the pet mana back regardless of pet health )
Selective clicky nerfs
Translocate nerfs
AE nerfs (20 mob max )
Drop rate nerfs ( in some places )
Taunt nerf (as I think it's never worked as it should)
Epic usage related nerfs
Sell back nerfs (cost to buy versus resell on some items)
DS duration (I know this is disputed but I'm an oldie who recalls 15 min duration even if my brain might be broken)
Snakes still kick
I know I left of class specific nerfs out....

It doesn't matter what intent the original devs had back in the day, if we're gonna have a classic server it'd be awesome if we could leave most of the classic "features" in play.

All that said, I love the P99 server and don't really care what they change I continue to plan to continue to enjoy. I don't know why some of the changes were made but I trust they (the people who make the current rules) know why.

Would be interesting to have a P99 server with more of the definite un-classic nerfs left untouched. But whatever, I have had countless hours of fun on this gift of a server from the ruling class for years.

Don't even get me started on the topic of classic "bugs" that never even existed on P99, like double damage mage bolts when on a hill.

Thank you,

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Hetjan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nerfs are classic but:

Item Recharge Nerfs
Reclaim pet nerfs ( never existed in classic that reclaim would do anything but give you 100% of the pet mana back regardless of pet health )
Selective clicky nerfs
Translocate nerfs
AE nerfs (20 mob max )
Drop rate nerfs ( in some places )
Taunt nerf (as I think it's never worked as it should)
Epic usage related nerfs
Sell back nerfs (cost to buy versus resell on some items)
DS duration (I know this is disputed but I'm an oldie who recalls 15 min duration even if my brain might be broken)
Snakes still kick
I know I left of class specific nerfs out....

It doesn't matter what intent the original devs had back in the day, if we're gonna have a classic server it'd be awesome if we could leave most of the classic "features" in play.

All that said, I love the P99 server and don't really care what they change I continue to plan to continue to enjoy. I don't know why some of the changes were made but I trust they (the people who make the current rules) know why.

Would be interesting to have a P99 server with more of the definite un-classic nerfs left untouched. But whatever, I have had countless hours of fun on this gift of a server from the ruling class for years.

Don't even get me started on the topic of classic "bugs" that never even existed on P99, like double damage mage bolts when on a hill.

Thank you,

Don't think taunt was nerfed...thought it's always been broken as it was back in the day?

You are wrong on damage shields. This is easily proven.

There's only one or two drop rate nerfs I'm aware of that aren't supported by classic evidence. What others are you referring to that aren't supported by evidence?

What's the translocate nerf?

AE nerfs are fine. Cheesing the game and disrupting zones by pulling every mob is dumb.

[Jimjam]

Ah sorry D S M it looks like you got hit by autocorrect there.

I’ll go back and edit.