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Old 06-23-2011, 01:02 PM
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And to all these people saying SK over warrior any day. Warriors bring a +10% exp bonus to a group, SKs and Paladins bring a -40% exp penalty to a group. SKs and Paladins have their place in groups, but in my opinion, it's after you've asked the good warriors if they're interested first. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Oh hell yeah, people hate that penalty. I was in Crypt in Sebilis, I found somebody to come replace me. A level 59 Paladin, replacing a level 54 Warrior. I figure, sweet, he's higher level AND he's better vs undead than me. The group will be excited. But still, somebody in the group asked if there was any other tanks LFG because they were concerned about the shared exp penalty.

It's a trade off. You want the better aggro management that spells offer? Go hybrid with a penalty. Don't want the penalty? Go warrior, hope he's geared well, root all the mobs and evade.
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Old 06-23-2011, 01:05 PM
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In the teens, twenties, thirties, chances are these players that are consistantly pulling aggro from warriors are twinks. If your warrior is as geared as your groups, you shouldn't have any trouble.
This likely has a lot to do with your problems.
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Old 06-23-2011, 01:21 PM
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im afraid, from my experiences on this server. a warrior decently played. is far from "gimped", and as for lowering the effectiveness of the group?
i am sure anybody will agree with me when saying that the warrior is a solid team player. AND WITH THAT BEING SAID. it takes more then 1 to tango.
groups should be groups, and not a bunch of sissy players who decide to take a break from soloing only to recklessly beat at mobs with others.
not so sure about a warriors life 30-50, but almost always it is a team effort to control aggro. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
This.

My level 54 warrior is no tougher than the experiance of my healer. He Holds no more agro than my dps players try to avoid and he can only pull as good as my enchater can mez. If you are having trouble holding agro in a group then maybe it isnt just you. It is a team effort to ensure a warrior shines.

EDIT : root is your friend at lower levels. Always ensure you have someone that can do so in your groups
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Old 06-23-2011, 01:32 PM
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Oh hell yeah, people hate that penalty. I was in Crypt in Sebilis, I found somebody to come replace me. A level 59 Paladin, replacing a level 54 Warrior. I figure, sweet, he's higher level AND he's better vs undead than me. The group will be excited. But still, somebody in the group asked if there was any other tanks LFG because they were concerned about the shared exp penalty.

It's a trade off. You want the better aggro management that spells offer? Go hybrid with a penalty. Don't want the penalty? Go warrior, hope he's geared well, root all the mobs and evade.
If you were tanking at 54 and your party was okay with it and you bring in a 59 anything, then the xp per kill for the rest of the group is going to drop by a lot because of just how much more xp that character has.

A 59 paladin is probably going to eat twice as much xp per kill as you were as a 54 warrior.
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Old 06-23-2011, 03:58 PM
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If you were tanking at 54 and your party was okay with it and you bring in a 59 anything, then the xp per kill for the rest of the group is going to drop by a lot because of just how much more xp that character has.

A 59 paladin is probably going to eat twice as much xp per kill as you were as a 54 warrior.
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Old 06-23-2011, 04:07 PM
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If you were tanking at 54 and your party was okay with it and you bring in a 59 anything, then the xp per kill for the rest of the group is going to drop by a lot because of just how much more xp that character has.

A 59 paladin is probably going to eat twice as much xp per kill as you were as a 54 warrior.
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Old 06-23-2011, 04:17 PM
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The point i was more trying to make is you should try to keep your groups closer in level. Course i don't know what lvls the rest of the group was but if you're predominately lvl 54ish then bringing in a 59 is going to nerf everyones xp rates regardless of what class it is.
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Old 06-23-2011, 04:32 PM
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The point i was more trying to make is you should try to keep your groups closer in level. Course i don't know what lvls the rest of the group was but if you're predominately lvl 54ish then bringing in a 59 is going to nerf everyones xp rates regardless of what class it is.
I dunno, having a 59 tank rocks because they take a crapton less damage...but the benefit of that depends which camp you're at...
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Old 06-23-2011, 04:42 PM
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When I think of places I want to be gaining good xp, I always think of Crypt.

On a real note though, Warriors don't really have a hard time holding agro if the group members aren't retarded/Don't heavily outgear the warrior. As a rogue in PUG groups, I'm usually hiding on every CD, not just when I get agro.
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In the time elapsed since this was posted this guy either has a lvl 30 warrior or a lvl 8 sk.
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