CoS nerf vs. prenerf

[DMN]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It works quite well, I get around with it all the time on my Shadowknight. You lull the undead and invis past the living mobs. Pretty simple. Having an instant cast Invis clickie certainly helps with this.

And how exactly was it needed to have an instant clicky with invisbility in this scenario as opposed of just casting it from spellbar?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And how exactly was it needed to have an instant clicky with invisbility in this scenario as opposed of just casting it from spellbar?

I am not someone saying pre-nerf CoS is required. Chill[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Having a clickie frees up one extra slot on your spellbar, which means you have more survival options if things go sideways. The faster the cast speed of the clickie, the easier it is to get past pathing mobs without having to agro it and flop. Again, quite simple. Pre-nerf CoS is safer than other clickie invis items. Is it required? No, but obviously the less chance of dying in a place like Howling Stones, the better.

I am simply pushing back on your idea invis is usless at higher levels. I use it all the time and get past tons of mobs. Yeah invis doesn't work in quite a few places at high levels, but that doesn't negate it's utility.

[DMN]

well, i never said it was useless. The fact i specifically added the qualifier "increasingly" clearly denotes i don't think it is always useless. All it means you have a higher frequency of scenarios where invisibility is just not useful. You eventually arrive at a point where the entire use of the item is to save you one button click.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

well, i never said it was useless. The fact i specifically added the qualifier "increasingly" clearly denotes i don't think it is always useless. All it means you have a higher frequency of scenarios where invisibility is just not useful. You eventually arrive at a point where the entire use of the item is to save you one button click.

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The idea of standing up and insta invising is something fun you did at level sub 30 and have fond memories of but then never bothered to try again because it simply no longer works reliably.

Sounds like you had a pretty strong opinion about it before. Just making sure people don't take the advise that invis isn't very good at high levels.

The entire use is to not save one button click. It saves you mana, it saves you a spell slot, it saves you time, it saves you bag slots. It does a lot for you. Just because it isn't required, doesn't mean it's bad.

[DMN]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sounds like you had a pretty strong opinion about it before. Just making sure people don't take the advise that invis isn't very good at high levels.

The entire use is to not save one button click. It saves you mana, it saves you a spell slot, it saves you time, it saves you bag slots. It does a lot for you. Just because it isn't required, doesn't mean it's bad.

So in case you missed it, between you misrepresenting my statemtens in your autistic stupor, the starter of this thread is questioning the worth of the pre-nerf CoS versus the nerfed CoS.

[Danth]

Necromancers have greater use of the Circlet of Shadow than shadow knights due to the convenience of on-demand charm breaks. That being said, I think I can make a fair comparison of the two since my own main (60 SK) has the pre-nerf version and the wife's 55 SK alt has the post-nerf version with a short cast time.

I wouldn't sell the one I have off my guy, but truth be told I don't miss it much if I log on the wife's SK alt for some reason. The prenerf is nice to have but I can get by without it without caring all that much. I'm no bottom-feeder, either; the wife and I regularly hung out in some of the toughest duo areas in the game. Main thing I like the prenerf for is sneaking around tricky areas where a player quite often has to feign-death flop while within aggro range of creatures. As a downside, it's a pet insta-kill button and I inadvertently kill Boney now and then when I forget to bag the insta-click circlet when using a pet. The cast-time variant doesn't have that issue. Both of them offer the same convenience of the saved spell gem slot.

It's a nice item, but I don't know if it's 70K nice. I don't think I'd pay that much for one until I didn't have anything else I particularly wanted to buy. I obtained mine years ago when they were practically free.

Danth

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So in case you missed it, between you misrepresenting my statemtens in your autistic stupor, the starter of this thread is questioning the worth of the pre-nerf CoS versus the nerfed CoS.

Why are you blaming me for the comments you made lol? You should be asking yourself why you were talking about how good invisibility is in this thread. I didn't start that.

You are getting really mad at me for some reason because of the comments you made. Your comments pretty clearly suggest you think invisibility isn't very good at higher levels. If that wasn't your intent, just say so and move on.

[DMN]

Why are you blaming me for misrpresenting everything you say?!?!? I are be confused autist.

please tell us all the great advantages afforded by paying 70k for pre-nerf CoS versus nerfed CoS + gaz ring at a fraction of the price.



spoiler

it's one fucking click.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why are you blaming me for misrpresenting everything you say?!?!? I are be confused autist.

please tell us all the great advantages afforded by paying 70k for pre-nerf CoS versus nerfed CoS + gaz ring at a fraction of the price.



spoiler

it's one fucking click.

You... weren't talking about the advantages of Pre-nerf CoS vs Post-nerf CoS before. You were talking about invisibility and how good it was. When I commented on what you said, you started insulting me and telling me to stay on topic, when you were the one who deviated in the first place lol.

You can read my previous comments if you want to know my opinion on Pre-nerf CoS. You are simply wrong on it's utility that it is "one click".

[DMN]

TLDR2: buy gaz ring and ignore resident autist.