Cleric race?

[oldschoolguy]

Can DE cleric do the quest for Reaper of the Dead? if yes, thats the nice bonus for DE.

otherwise dwarf is best

[Pillow Armadillo]

Technically yes (Innoruuk worshippers mainly), but the quest has been bugged since November 2021 so nobody can currently complete that quest.

[Tethler]

Dark elves are being quite underappreciated here. Look awesome in plate. Can wear robes. Can get snare clicky neck. Ultravision. And hide has allowed me to safely med while solo dungeon crawling.

[Botten]

Originally Posted by Tethler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dark elves are being quite underappreciated here. Look awesome in plate. Can wear robes. Can get snare clicky neck. Ultravision. And hide has allowed me to safely med while solo dungeon crawling.

Their hide (spam it) allows them determine if a mob has been affected by Atone. Threatening means failed. Indifferent means success.

Dark Elf clerics are the only ones who get halfling illusion. Though your religion is still evil your illusion can be of a good race. Halfling illusion currently (unless there is a patch) allows you to be gnome size and see through walls like gnomes. (thou humans can get this too)

[DMN]

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Their hide (spam it) allows them determine if a mob has been affected by Atone. Threatening means failed. Indifferent means success.

Not terribly relevant.

So.cast root. cast atone
1. eemy faces a different direction after atone = hate wiped
2. enemy no longer directly looks at you if you move perpendicular to their vision = hate wiped
3. they get a health tick. you only need to have done the tiniest amount of damage to tell if they get a heal tick since they will gain a large percent or be back to 100% = hate wiped

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dark Elf clerics are the only ones who get halfling illusion. Though your religion is still evil your illusion can be of a good race. Halfling illusion currently (unless there is a patch) allows you to be gnome size and see through walls like gnomes. (thou humans can get this too)

Everyone can get halfling illusion if they really want it.

[Gustoo]

DE is a fine choice, they get shit canned because of people focusing on Charisma considerations.

If you ignore the charisma thing, the racial vision, hide, reaper of the dead + snare item makes them a decent choice. As others have mentioned, like many race choices it isn't going to make or break the class really.

Oldschoolguy - I think I still need to test it. I've got no plans to re-roll or anything with Gustoo, but if there was ever a new server I have been considering a cleric race choice and I have been considering Charisma a lot. Same with a Paladin race choice.

At the very least I can do some tests just for the fun of it, at some lowish level against a white con mob, a blue con mob, and a green con mob with the two different charisma levels and show the logs and the critical resists.

Lull is a level 1 cleric spell so it shouldn't take too much work. It's a meaningful part of the paladin / cleric tool kit that is only shared with enchanters so I think it is worth documenting.

Then again I think some pro enchanter guy already shared some logs.

[eisley]

I made a Paineel Erudite for the Spook the Dead and Panic Animal necklaces, and Fear mask. The necklaces got nerfed, so definitely don't make one for those.

[beargryllz]

female dorf, bearded

[Jimjam]

Human get the ‘easy’ halfling illusion mask too if inny, but the duration in the buff is super short. Personally I like using hide to check atone, but it won’t work for everything and other methods are available. Not having to root does help a little bit if you are trying to get a mob to path back home, but it is usually no big deal.

Most of the time for most clerics will be spent casting 1 spell - the fringe advantages of race are minor seeing as many clerics rarely take advantage of their powerful non-heal spells.

[DMN]

i don't see how hide is ever partiicularly relevant for atone, even assuming you don't want to use root -- which means you are using a powerful lull, in which case its quite easy to see if atone worked because the mob will stop beating your face in. even worse with hide you have to double check to see if your hide even worked in the first place.

i suppose you could try hiding immediately after atone to avoid having to use lull/root at all but again given hide failure rates/re-use time and atone failure rates and the cast/recast times on atone it's an incredibly bad strategy.