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Old 06-06-2011, 08:36 AM
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Back to the original BARD vs. ROGUE debate:

Bard:
+ Can do a little bit of everything. I've even found ways to "fit" in with a group that already had a chanter and shaman.
+ Track (especially with how low the ranger population is)
+ Fastest soloing in the game.
+ Solid group support.
+ ALWAYS doing something.
- ALWAYS doing something.
- little DPS, groups bring you for your support, not your large numbers.
- bard sneak/hide/lock pick is vastly inferior to rogue version

Rogue:
+ melee are top dogs in DPS in classic, this won't change until foci and AA (which are not planned at this time for P99 server)
+ highest melee DPS in the game (especially after epics come out)
+ easy epic
+ best invis in game (hide/sneak)
- straight DPS, you bring the pain...and that's about it
- not as much to do, backstab and aggro dump are all you do in combat

I'm sure there's ton's I'm missing, but if you want to have a nice, "classic" chill time while still being wanted in groups for your DPS, roll a rogue. If you want to always be busy, roll a bard.
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Old 06-06-2011, 11:12 AM
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+ ALWAYS doing something.
- ALWAYS doing something.
Truth.
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Old 06-06-2011, 01:14 PM
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Back to the original BARD vs. ROGUE debate:

Bard:
+ Can do a little bit of everything. I've even found ways to "fit" in with a group that already had a chanter and shaman.
+ Track (especially with how low the ranger population is)
+ Fastest soloing in the game.
+ Solid group support.
+ ALWAYS doing something.
- ALWAYS doing something.
- little DPS, groups bring you for your support, not your large numbers.
- bard sneak/hide/lock pick is vastly inferior to rogue version

Rogue:
+ melee are top dogs in DPS in classic, this won't change until foci and AA (which are not planned at this time for P99 server)
+ highest melee DPS in the game (especially after epics come out)
+ easy epic
+ best invis in game (hide/sneak)
- straight DPS, you bring the pain...and that's about it
- not as much to do, backstab and aggro dump are all you do in combat

I'm sure there's ton's I'm missing, but if you want to have a nice, "classic" chill time while still being wanted in groups for your DPS, roll a rogue. If you want to always be busy, roll a bard.
Just gunna address the bolded part.

Rogue poisons can be very effective debuffs, although they're a pain to level up and too expensive to use in an xp group they can actually be quiet useful against bosses, I'm fairly certain they're unresistable.
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Old 06-06-2011, 01:15 PM
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Old 06-06-2011, 04:47 PM
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From the posts here it seems like the biggest negative about being a bard is that they aren't better at being an enchanter than enchanters are. Which is a really dumb thing to say is a negative about playing a bard.
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Old 06-06-2011, 04:48 PM
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From the posts here it seems like the biggest negative about being a bard is that they aren't better at being an enchanter than enchanters are. Which is a really dumb thing to say is a negative about playing a bard.
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Old 06-06-2011, 05:04 PM
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I think the only negative is the minus to XP penalty.

Was in a DL group that was very resistant to getting a bard because of the penalty.
I could care less. They let him join, but he went LD shortly thereafter.
They claimed there was a big difference in XP.
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Old 06-07-2011, 07:41 AM
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They claimed there was a big difference in XP.
It's kind of like telling someone eating noodles that they're whole grain noodles. Chances are that if it was never pointed out to them, they wouldn't know the difference, but now that they know, their pasta doesn't taste as good.

People spend way too much time looking at that little yellow bar. You can experience end game long before L60, there is nothing after L60 (no AA, no more levels), so why is everyone in such a rush to get there? It's a refreshing change from WoW where the game begins at max level, why are we trying to treat P99 the same way?
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Old 06-07-2011, 04:47 PM
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Because most people are used to that.

I doubt there's a single person here that went from playing EQ in 1999 to playing Project1999 in 2011.
There were most likely a lot of MMOs in between and you grow used to a certain type of gameplay.
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Old 06-07-2011, 05:20 PM
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Because most people are used to that.

I doubt there's a single person here that went from playing EQ in 1999 to playing Project1999 in 2011.
There were most likely a lot of MMOs in between and you grow used to a certain type of gameplay.
i quit before velious and havent played another MMO until this... so you sir are wrong =P
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