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Old 08-09-2021, 04:54 PM
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literlly everyone and their grandma will quit green to play blue if luclin and pop were

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just go to takp if you want to play that stuff
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Old 08-10-2021, 07:09 AM
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Would be great to see a form of the bazaar on Blue...but I guess that would involve an expansion release....

I still regard the difficulty of this game as one of the best motivations to play - as a new player to P99 I've been extremely lucky to have had items donated to me from the kindly players on blue - I dread to think how much time I would have to put in to obtain them.

I did play pretty much full on from 1999 to 2007 but I can't put that time in these days - just good to be back playing the old world again and trying stuff I didn't the first time around.
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Old 08-11-2021, 11:14 AM
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Raise the level cap to 65 and add Luclin and PoP AA's.

Add Beast Master but don't add Cats.

Add each plane from PoP and make the planar entrance match up with a spot in the world.

Innovation in Steamfont
Fire in Lavastorm
Tranquility in the middle of Erud's Crossing
Disease in RnF channel
You get the idea

I personally like SoL but I'd be open to a version of it that removed the bazaar if that's what really gets people. Remove Cat person place also, no big deal. Remove most or all of the books in PoK.

The Nexxus isn't a bad option for moving around. It takes forever and doesn't go everywhere, I think it's a great thing to have since most people would probably still use Druid/Wiz ports.

The best thing about adding SoL and PoP is it really spreads out the raiding population. The number of targets across the 5+ tiers is astounding.

The time and energy it takes to set up CoH mages all over VT for easy access to targets is borderline triggering.

A low tier raid guild with a force of 65's can have a blast doing ToV and Luclin targets and trying to get into Vex Thal.

Mid tier can go after targets in PoP and hope to push into the elemental planes.

Psychopaths can go after Plane of Time.

Win/win/win/win.

Losers are the people that want to lock down NToV, ST, and VP so they can flex on mid tier raid guilds and stand in EC tunnel with primal weapons for the next 10+ years.
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Old 08-12-2021, 07:16 AM
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Raise the level cap to 65 and add Luclin and PoP AA's.

Add Beast Master but don't add Cats.

Add each plane from PoP and make the planar entrance match up with a spot in the world.

Innovation in Steamfont
Fire in Lavastorm
Tranquility in the middle of Erud's Crossing
Disease in RnF channel
You get the idea.

...

Win/win/win/win.

Losers are the people that want to lock down NToV, ST, and VP so they can flex on mid tier raid guilds and stand in EC tunnel with primal weapons for the next 10+ years.
This. The Bazaar was a QOL improvement, but it removes a major social aspect of the game, which is likely the single largest explanation to its longevity. Without another interactive trading system that supports haggling, its impacts are too grave to be acceptable.

The rapid porting via POK also further removes social interactions, but the nexus portals are in the same category with nearly identical function as a boat, so if you are ok with boats, you should also be fine with those portals. We already have wizards, it’s not like it’s a far-fetched idea that breaks immersion ( like adding a Ferrari F430 to a Middle Ages game would).

Also, the inclusion of the planes and the progression system that it provided were the leak of EQ lore for me. It seemed like the ideal culmination point for the classic experience. Instead of reading about the gods in your dusty old players manual you got to embark on the quest to defeat them with your guild. Surely a few of the hiccups from PoP and SoL could be removed to protect the social interdependence that makes EQ thrive. We need more content on these server, we’ve already reached peak immersion and the depth in content would likely be a good pressure relief for some of the try hards.

Also, I bet there are enough qualified people here to create and design this content if the Nilbog/Rogan team would ever accept applications - it doesn’t have to fall solely on them. Veto anything that doesn’t meet the standing “pseudo classic”” criteria.
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Old 08-12-2021, 01:52 PM
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This. The Bazaar was a QOL improvement, but it removes a major social aspect of the game, which is likely the single largest explanation to its longevity. Without another interactive trading system that supports haggling, its impacts are too grave to be acceptable.

The rapid porting via POK also further removes social interactions, but the nexus portals are in the same category with nearly identical function as a boat, so if you are ok with boats, you should also be fine with those portals. We already have wizards, it’s not like it’s a far-fetched idea that breaks immersion ( like adding a Ferrari F430 to a Middle Ages game would).

Also, the inclusion of the planes and the progression system that it provided were the leak of EQ lore for me. It seemed like the ideal culmination point for the classic experience. Instead of reading about the gods in your dusty old players manual you got to embark on the quest to defeat them with your guild. Surely a few of the hiccups from PoP and SoL could be removed to protect the social interdependence that makes EQ thrive. We need more content on these server, we’ve already reached peak immersion and the depth in content would likely be a good pressure relief for some of the try hards.

Also, I bet there are enough qualified people here to create and design this content if the Nilbog/Rogan team would ever accept applications - it doesn’t have to fall solely on them. Veto anything that doesn’t meet the standing “pseudo classic”” criteria.
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Old 08-11-2021, 02:43 PM
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You guys are making my dreams of a second pvp server seem so likely that I can taste it.
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Old 08-12-2021, 01:02 AM
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Add each plane from PoP and make the planar entrance match up with a spot in the world.

Innovation in Steamfont
Fire in Lavastorm
Tranquility in the middle of Erud's Crossing
Disease in RnF channel
You get the idea
This is a great idea to introduce custom content. Imagine clicking on the top of the windmill in steamfont to zone into plane of innovation.

Here's a bonus to make it super interesting... Add these zone-ins but do not announce where they are. It would reintroduce that feeling of exploring an unknown world without an all-encompassing wiki.
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Old 08-12-2021, 08:22 AM
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I'll donate $100 to the server if they open SoL!!!
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Old 08-12-2021, 10:52 AM
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Also, a note on further expansions.

On TAKP (SoL currently, with plans to go to PoP then locked) a completely Classic guild existed that would only move to the next expansion when they conquered the current one. Players could only equip items from the past and current expansion to conquer the expansion's content.

These players made their own "Classic" experience and they had the ability to do it with no problems. The other guilds happily gave them the targets they desired.
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Old 08-12-2021, 11:36 PM
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Also, a note on further expansions.

On TAKP (SoL currently, with plans to go to PoP then locked) a completely Classic guild existed that would only move to the next expansion when they conquered the current one. Players could only equip items from the past and current expansion to conquer the expansion's content.

These players made their own "Classic" experience and they had the ability to do it with no problems. The other guilds happily gave them the targets they desired.
My only problem with TAKP is the population is pretty small and how many of those are boxers? Last time I logged in there was about 200ish people and a boxer who was controlling 10 people ran past me, so it got me wondering how many unique people are actually there.
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