Extensive evidence, full proof that Enchanters are non-classic and must be nerfed.

[Toothed]

I'm not talking about an alligator in oasis I'm talking about crawling thru a dungeon.

[Jibartik]

duh.

Are you new to project 1999 you just described the first five years of project 1999 until a certain someone name triangle started teaching people how to charm and then another person posted videos about it and here we are now.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If it was as easy to charm on live as your memories suggest ... then why didn't Enchanters (or Druids, or Necros) do it a lot?

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

until a certain someone name triangle started teaching people how to charm and then another person posted videos about it and here we are now.

The reason teh game is broken

Loramins work on the wiki.

The wiki is the single handed worst thing to happen to Everquest since luclin.

it turned social p99 into a solo only game where people read up on how to do things by themselves, instead of making friends to try to learn from them.

The only solution: There is none, so get used to it. At best zelda the second quest at the start of ever server, someone moves all the names and loot around (random loot tables similar to what is on mischife is a close second, but still easy to master)

Simply put, ever quest is an EASY GAME, what made it hard was everything was obfuscated behind bad information and nerds that didn't like to share power.

To be good at everquest, meant you were good at socializing. Ironic.

[Toothed]

You right. I just wish we could go back to classic before people had the internet and could share strategies...

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Toothed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You right. I just wish we could go back to classic before people had the internet and could share strategies...

I think that we'll never get it back, but on mischife I do get that feeling of wonder that I havent had for years, wondering what the random loot drops will be for this mob Ive killed 1000 times before and never cared about

[Jibartik]

It's also extrodinarlly difficult to "crawl through a dungeon" on p99 idc what you say, id like to see you at 36 solo the bar in sola, you cant! too many mobs!

It's not like enchanting makes crawling through and killing everything in a dungeon easy.

What does, is using lull (through walls which blows my mind was on live but I guess we have some evidence for that?)

Lull, i played an enchanter from launch to about halfway through kunark, I charmed, yes, I did, but did I lull? NOPE I didnt even know what that spell did, I thought it would make mobs not agro, but when i walked near them or pulled them, they agroed anyway, Not until p99 had I ever once used lull the way it seemed it was intended

Whats the status on lull guys? any proof about that one? Because being able to lull through walls, is why enchanter is powerful, not because charm.

[Bondrake]

People need to stop ragging on enchanters and try to get laid or by someone who isn't a land whale.

[Jibartik]

Out of curiosity why is lull through walls on p99 is that an old game breaking bug we reverted to for classic? And it resulted in everyone thinking enchanters were too powerful?

[Jibartik]

I mean the fact that live players use p99's wiki should indicate that

WHAT WE DO HERE IS MORE POWERFUL THAN WHAT ANYONE DID ON LIVE, EVER.

This is why we charm with great power here.

We know too much.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean the fact that live players use p99's wiki should indicate that

WHAT WE DO HERE IS MORE POWERFUL THAN WHAT ANYONE DID ON LIVE, EVER.

This is why we charm with great power here.

We know too much.

Ok Jib, so let's take a simple example. When my Druid was in his teens here on P99, I took him out to South Karana, where I proceeded to charm some elephants and make them fight each other. I knew nothing about charming, except the very basics of how it works (ie. cast charm to get a pet, cast invis on yourself to lose the pet, and then the usual rules about when pets take XP). I'm pretty sure live people knew those basics too, and knowing only that (with no Goblin ring), I was quickly getting noticeably more XP than I could earn root/rotting.

Now, South Karana was a popular destination on live too (more popular than here in fact). It had elephants too, and mechanically they were probably the same as the ones we have (modulo their exact spawn points). So IF our emulator was truly the same as live ... that would mean live Druids could also have done the exact same thing: charmed for faster XP, without a ring or any special tech, or even any knowledge whatsoever except how two spells on their list worked, and how pets worked,

But they didn't! Again, 20 root/rot guides vs. 1 charm guide ... long after the classic era. The vast majority of Druids weren't charming on live ... even though (again, IF our emulation is correct) they should have been able to do so, and would have gotten much better XP if they did.

Either the vast majority of live Druids ignored a way to get faster XP, a way that only required using two spells on their list and no real special knowledge ... OR, our emulator isn't accurate.