Monks in PvP?

[wehrmacht]

Originally Posted by JayDee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Since you like it reflecting live so much, how bout making weapon damage accurate so that most melees will be maxxing for 50 dmg with a mithril 2hander at level fifty and missing a good portion of the time.

Real damage:

Warrior with mithril 2h and 255str = (200+255)/100 x 21 + 8 = 103.55 max hit

Warrior with mithril 2h and 200str = = 92 max hit

Warrior with mithril 2h and 150str = = 81.5 max hit

[JayDee]

Yeah, just like the equations I saw that were true to live for vztz too right.

I believe what I saw in the combat window, not what you tell me. And for the most part it was around 50-60 dmg (on a chain class) with a lot of misses inbetween.

[JayDee]

And we are talking max damage, which was uncommon on live and all but assured on vztz every hit. AC also had like no affect on that shit server.

So compound that by the fact that melees were doing somewhere between double and triple the dmg they did on live. Dunno wtf you're complaining about.

[wehrmacht]

Originally Posted by JayDee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I believe what I saw in the combat window, not what you tell me. And for the most part it was around 50-60 dmg (on a chain class) with a lot of misses inbetween.

Numbers I posted were max hit, not average hit.

Int caster AC softcap is something like 50-100ac and they have crap for return over cap so it's virtually impossible for them to mitigate much of anything. Majority of hits against them should be 3/5ths, 3/4ths, or max damage.

Druid softcap and return over cap is also extremely low.

Hitting a shaman you will do noticeably less damage than a druid but you'd still see something like an average hit of 70-75 against one with 255str. More AC just shifts your position down the (20 point?) DI table.

[Badmartigan]

Originally Posted by Envious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Melee cant channel in classic, and non instant pumice means an ench / mage / necro will rape him. Shadowstep puts wiz in that group as well. Until the monk is well geared.



In vanilla EQ, on Tallon... I got Gylen (50) to about 10% and made him leave EC with my lvl 24 mage, by hiding in a fucking tree and chain summoning earth pets with DS.

I must be confused, did you play vanilla / classic EQ PvP?

classic pumice is insta cast

[Envious]

/duel? Running from a duel you could always say you had shit to do, but dying in one... not so much. Being able to shit talk people on other factions led to some interesting events.

Badmartigan, I think at some point a P99 dev hinted at no egg shaped pumice. But based on what they are doing with P99, there could be egg shaped for like 6 months or someshit.

As for people being badass on Live, and sucking at the EMU... as stated in a previous post, VZ/TZ was nothing like live. And ppl on Live, are prolly not the original owners anymore.

Either way, ppl like Salty / Wehr shouldnt even be posting in these threads.

[fiegi]

This the badmartigan from the classic days of pvpin with ilsen? Or a later owner........

[wehrmacht]

Originally Posted by Envious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Either way, ppl like Salty / Wehr shouldnt even be posting in these threads.

Lol @ this.

An anonymous Pandemonium TZ player talking shit.

TZ vs SZ - the TZ player always loses, never fails.

[Salty]

LOL Pandemonium.


Your players were worthless on vztz.


While I enjoy the company of False and Co. they couldn't get anything accomplished and cried when ALL their pals couldn't join Heresy.


Heresy killed Pandemonium before they could do anything noteworthy on an emu. I'd like to see them attempt to lead a guild again, should be funny.

[Envious]

1. I was never in PDM~ (Altho I did help Deloth convince himself it was a good idea)
2. The players that forged PDM, prolly quit EQ 10 years ago? (Ninnu / Darlana is an exception)
3. I dunno if the False on TZ is the original False. And kinda find it hard to believe.
4. Why are people that have never played classic EQ PvP, commenting on classic EQ PvP?
5. PDM from Late Kunark to Velious, would have zero competition on any EMU. Its not even worth bringing up.