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Old 04-20-2021, 05:29 AM
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You can level to 60 without giving up very much. It just will be very slow. Find a mob you can kill solo at a safe-ish spot and kill it whenever you get a minute. Find new spot when the mob no longer gives exp.

It will take months or years, depending on many factors, but you'll get 60 eventually.

Raiding is another beast, though. It's very hard to impossible to raid if you have a lot of work/family/social commitments.

One way is to join a guild that raids during your nights. Then you can wake up for a couple hours for select raids you want to join, then optionally go back to bed when it's over.
I've done that for several weeks a few years ago because I wanted some VP stuff and it's very tiresome. I wouldn't recommend doing this on a constant basis.
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Old 04-20-2021, 06:12 AM
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The biggest mistake people in 'lesser' guilds make is thinking you play more in the top end guilds.

I can log in, attack a mob and log out in under 3 minutes sometimes if I so feel. If I want to pull it, add 1-2 minutes. If I want to track it I can spend as little or as much time as I want.

Casual guilds like kittens/castle/whatever sometimes spend more time just assembling at the zone in and discussing what to kill than Vanqriot spend on an entire log in, coth, pull, kill, port out.
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Old 04-20-2021, 09:18 PM
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The biggest mistake people in 'lesser' guilds make is thinking you play more in the top end guilds.

I can log in, attack a mob and log out in under 3 minutes sometimes if I so feel. If I want to pull it, add 1-2 minutes. If I want to track it I can spend as little or as much time as I want.

Casual guilds like kittens/castle/whatever sometimes spend more time just assembling at the zone in and discussing what to kill than Vanqriot spend on an entire log in, coth, pull, kill, port out.
And you talk as if you've never blown off an obligation, whether to work, relations, school or your own sleep to kill a dragon for 3 minutes. Which is disingenuous. Btw, 3 minutes just gets you on the attendence list. You're not even a warm body at that point. Way to stand in line for your free loot nuthanger.
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Old 04-20-2021, 10:07 PM
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And you talk as if you've never blown off an obligation, whether to work, relations, school or your own sleep to kill a dragon for 3 minutes. Which is disingenuous. Btw, 3 minutes just gets you on the attendence list. You're not even a warm body at that point. Way to stand in line for your free loot nuthanger.
I've never had a job that would let me blow off work for anything that wasn't majorly serious. This must be a white collar thing, hehe.
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Old 04-21-2021, 06:50 AM
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I've never had a job that would let me blow off work for anything that wasn't majorly serious. This must be a white collar thing, hehe.
Is bet money you've been late for trivial selfish reasons at some point in your life.
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Old 04-20-2021, 10:06 PM
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The biggest mistake people in 'lesser' guilds make is thinking you play more in the top end guilds.

I can log in, attack a mob and log out in under 3 minutes sometimes if I so feel. If I want to pull it, add 1-2 minutes. If I want to track it I can spend as little or as much time as I want.

Casual guilds like kittens/castle/whatever sometimes spend more time just assembling at the zone in and discussing what to kill than Vanqriot spend on an entire log in, coth, pull, kill, port out.
That's how modern WoW had gotten before I quit raiding. People always assumed that because I played WoW and was a successful raider that I must be playing 12+ hours a day. In actuality my guild usually cleared all content in 3 hours, and then spent the rest of the week with nothing to do. I was actually upset with this, it felt like you could only play WoW at the most... 5 hours a week because Arena teams were also static back then, so once you did your weekly cap (1-2 hours tops), you were further incentivized to stop playing to secure your rating.

I don't feel this is the case with EverQuest though. Someone who is comfortably in a raid position may feel this way, but a newer player looking to join up is probably looking at a lot of no lifering to get that point, no?
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Old 04-20-2021, 09:14 AM
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Old 04-20-2021, 10:13 AM
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I just want to say I have trouble raiding even tho I am on a pension. And don't have to even shower ever day. So it's not as easy as you guys make it out to be.
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Old 04-20-2021, 12:21 PM
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You don't have to be unemployed, but it helps a lot. The main thing on Blue is you have to have small/medium chunks of time available pretty much 24/7. There is a super gross meta of killing things in the middle of the night or during the middle of a workday.

The problem with this is that if you are a normy trying to be a raider, you're fucked. If you work 9-5 in an office you are missing a LARGE % of the raid pops, which means you basically have to have 100% RA on the weekends and prime time to be able to meet RA requirements, which means you become a fucking meme nerd who sits at their computer every second of thier down time.

When I started waking up to bat phones at 3 am to kill Yelinak I realized I needed to stop taking P99 so seriously. The pixels are like heroine though.

The immersed raiders on this forum will say whatever they want about how raiding is cool and normal and they dont have a problem keeping RA, but the truth is if you want to raid on P99 it is an enormous time commitment anyway you cut it.

Is it worth it? I think its fun to experience for a short time - Maybe for like 3 months max? But then you have to have the willpower to cut the cord or you end up in a UN discord discussing P99s raid scene like you are a constitutional lawyer. Its seriously like a drug addiction - "I can quit anytime".
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Old 04-20-2021, 12:23 PM
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Why can't the GM's/guides just outlaw any guilds requiring more than 40% RA? like "you'rre guild will be disbanded and not allowed to exist if u do that to ur players".

Simple solution lol.
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