VP Keys Quests should not be in game

[Zipity]

Are you sure VP isn’t in game yet?
Could be no yellow text and people are just killing in there anonymously

[getsome]

VP should exist when kunark launches as in 2000.

[nphixion]

Originally Posted by Bardp1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As someone who has spent hundreds of hours in VP I can safely tell you that you are not missing much. The time and effort is simply not worth it with Velious being just around the corner.

VP was cool on Blue because we were stuck there for 5 years, on Green I just dont see the point outside of the top raiding guild getting free loot 'so why not'.

It also feels very unclassic to be able to get keys to a zone that is not in game yet.

(For what it’s worth I’m also a person who has spent 100s of hours in VP.)

[nphixion]

Originally Posted by Zipity [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you sure VP isn’t in game yet?
Could be no yellow text and people are just killing in there anonymously

Yes. VP doesn’t exist

[nphixion]

Originally Posted by getsome [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

VP should exist when kunark launches as in 2000.

It’d be nice if it did but no, it shouldn’t. Good to see you tho Getsome 🥺

[reznor_]

Originally Posted by nphixion [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey folks,

GMs acknowledge that certain behaviors are detrimental to the server that are gained by foresight for what's to come. These behaviors/items they seek to control are not negative nor do they have malicious intent, but ultimately are controlled to maintain the spirit of classic EQ experience.

I believe the most infamous/famous example of this to be GM intervention to nerf the Gnoll Scroll experience - but there are other intentional decisions to stick to this server's scope of work.

That being said - I do not think that VP Keys should remain in game for this reason. No one, in true classic experience at this stage of Kunark, had any idea what VP was or what it would do, what loot benefits would wait. And even if they did, I think it is fair to say that they were no methods to mass produce VP keys.

I would hope that the GMs consider the precedent they've maintained to make this the best emulated everquest experience and remove the VP Key quest line and/or its no drops - from the game.

This is my perspective alone and not representative of my elf pals.

And? The key pieces are /list. That mechanic sucks in itself. Would it make a big difference if the key quests weren't in until a February patch?

[Thulian]

i love how opening day of vp there will be a blob of players already keyed to go clear it in 2 hours

Lol

[reznor_]

Originally Posted by Thulian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i love how opening day of vp there will be a blob of players already keyed to go clear it in 2 hours

Lol

So according to OP, VP should not be in the game.

According to you, a bunch of players will have keys on VP release and clear it. Yes, probably.

Or, VP could have been opened coinciding with the medallion pieces dropping. Whats the best way, in your opinion, to make people the most miserable? PVP competition for the VP camps? Not /listing the VP pieces if VP opened the same time the stuff started to drop?

[nphixion]

Originally Posted by reznor_ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And? The key pieces are /list. That mechanic sucks in itself. Would it make a big difference if the key quests weren't in until a February patch?

Would it make a big difference if a person leveled to 60 on day 1 of Kunark? I would say not. But despite what I say or think, the GMs didn’t believe that was in the spirit of classic. And I support their decisions.

Applying this same logic I fundamentally believe this is apples to apples to gnoll scrolls. And green should not have access to content that doesn’t exist yet. Content that - on classic - was proven to not be doable until some months post velious by the top guild.

[nphixion]

Originally Posted by reznor_ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So according to OP, VP should not be in the game.

According to you, a bunch of players will have keys on VP release and clear it. Yes, probably.

Or, VP could have been opened coinciding with the medallion pieces dropping. Whats the best way, in your opinion, to make people the most miserable? PVP competition for the VP camps? Not /listing the VP pieces if VP opened the same time the stuff started to drop?

For the record, I’m not advocating for people to be miserable. I’m only advocating for a VP raiding scene that is consistent with classic Everquest. Similar to how at least 2 members of the P99 green community were manufacturing scrolls to level to 60 instantly, we shouldn’t have key manufacturing for a dungeon that doesn’t exist yet.

Also to remind folks, the point of this thread isn’t to speculate how to improve key manufacturing. But please feel free to make your own post!