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Old 09-19-2020, 11:34 AM
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Luckily, people will come to terms with this and won't call for more rioting just because political winds aren't blowing in their favor-annnnnnd, this is why we can't have nice things
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Old 09-19-2020, 02:23 PM
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There was a solid understanding for many years - a sort of peace when it came to fucking with the Supreme Court and its balance. This was violated in 2016. There will be retribution - probably not now, but sometime.
What is this BS "balance" concept you speak of? The courts are about JUSTICE.

The Supreme Court's job is to properly interpret and uphold the Constitution.

When the court makes a decision it isn't about balancing political interests. You have 9 justices it's intended to NOT be balanced so they can make the RIGHT decision on cases. Not some political compromise based on the the culture's current zeitgeist.

Worth a read: https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/constitutional.aspx
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Old 09-24-2020, 07:41 PM
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What is this BS "balance" concept you speak of? The courts are about JUSTICE.

The Supreme Court's job is to properly interpret and uphold the Constitution.

When the court makes a decision it isn't about balancing political interests. You have 9 justices it's intended to NOT be balanced so they can make the RIGHT decision on cases. Not some political compromise based on the the culture's current zeitgeist.

Worth a read: https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/constitutional.aspx
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Old 09-19-2020, 02:30 PM
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I saw your above post which led me to read some of your other more recent posts and was both surprised and disappointed. I normally wouldn't post this but you are one of the most intelligent people I have met, in this community or otherwise, and I believe you are parroting conspiracy theories meant to cause division within our country.

Consider occam's razor and whether: (1) it really makes sense that there is some agenda to turn our country communist (that has a real chance of succeeding and is not just a loud fringe group - note the US has had a communist party established for the last 100 years); or (2) whether our world adversaries are merely seeking to divide our people as they have sought to do for the last 50 years to lessen our power and destroy our alliances. Biden isn't the best, but he will keep the pendulum from swinging as far left as it swung to the right in 2016 which is critical to lessening that divide.

Consider also whether that strategy to divide us is more effective now because of the desperate situation of the average American whose culture was not to embrace education but was able to provide its people good lives through blue collar jobs which are no longer there. Rather than seek to blame minorities and liberals and embrace politicians who spout hate and make empty promises, it is critical for them to adapt and better themselves. Further division and propping up fake enemies will just stop that from happening.

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Old 09-19-2020, 03:27 PM
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Loraen/Raev:

Consider occam's razor and whether: (1) it really makes sense that there is some agenda to turn our country communist (that has a real chance of succeeding and is not just a loud fringe group - note the US has had a communist party established for the last 100 years); or (2) whether our world adversaries are merely seeking to divide our people as they have sought to do for the last 50 years to lessen our power and destroy our alliances. Biden isn't the best, but he will keep the pendulum from swinging as far left as it swung to the right in 2016 which is critical to lessening that divide.


There is an attempt to reroute this country towards something, but its not exactly "communism" as envisioned by marx.

Its more or less corporo-communism, and policy is constantly being reorgranized to consolidate power into the hands of a few megacorps, that arent even financially competitive with small business.

Take google for example.

Google used to source food and beverage supplies from small local redistributors that were able to deliver product to them at a price below what they would have to pay companies like Sysco Foods.

Now, theyve partnered with Foodbuy, and all of their historic suppliers are being forced to sign onto obligations that would make them financially responsible for manufacturing / production auditting practices that essentially require the small business to contract fulltime staff even the axtual manufactuer/producer already has the fiscal depth/breadth to assume that liability personally, in the event of a QA issue.

This is also typified in their foodbiy contract quarterly which means if youre redistributing 100 or 200 skus from 8 different manufacturers youve gotta have a guy flying around all over the coubtry to audit your suppliers practices, and their raw material manufacturers practices all the down to source, every quarter.

This baloons operational costs and essentially disqualifies a large number of small businesses doing business with Google, at a more competitive price, but it doesn't matter.

These contracts with foodbuy also require full disclosure of the ethnic diversity breakdown of companies signing on with them, with increased net 45(business days only) accounting practices unless the company is "minority-owned) in which case they pay net30-standard.

I could go on and on and on about the verious practices and sourcing agreement expectations when doing business with a company, but long story: short; there's all sorts of fuckery going on behind the scenes to consolidate and invalidate any other path but "corporate employee" in the US right now.
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Old 09-20-2020, 04:24 AM
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There is an attempt to reroute this country towards something, but its not exactly "communism" as envisioned by marx.

Its more or less corporo-communism, and policy is constantly being reorgranized to consolidate power into the hands of a few megacorps, that arent even financially competitive with small business.

[...]

I could go on and on and on about the verious practices and sourcing agreement expectations when doing business with a company, but long story: short; there's all sorts of fuckery going on behind the scenes to consolidate and invalidate any other path but "corporate employee" in the US right now.
you are describing the form of government karl marx and vladimir lenin warned your forefathers capitalism would necessarily develop into. the "barbarism" part of "socialism or barbarism."
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you are describing the form of government karl marx and vladimir lenin warned your forefathers capitalism would necessarily develop into. the "barbarism" part of "socialism or barbarism."
Slap a BLM fist and a LGBT Rainbow flag on it and sell that rebranded shit, bro.

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conspiracy theories
I've never understood this term. Do you seriously believe that America's rich and powerful are all upstanding, moral men and women primarily concerned with the common good rather than their personal fiefdoms? Of course that doesn't mean that any particular theory is correct, but I don't see how anyone can look at modern America and conclude that the common people are actually in control of this country. Nor should this result be surprising: it's basically theoretically guaranteed in any sufficiently large democracy.

As for liberals, I suggest you watch Yuri Bezmenov.
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Old 09-19-2020, 05:59 PM
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I've never understood this term. Do you seriously believe that America's rich and powerful are all upstanding, moral men and women primarily concerned with the common good rather than their personal fiefdoms? Of course that doesn't mean that any particular theory is correct, but I don't see how anyone can look at modern America and conclude that the common people are actually in control of this country. Nor should this result be surprising: it's basically theoretically guaranteed in any sufficiently large democracy.

As for liberals, I suggest you watch Yuri Bezmenov.
Well the problem with what people call conspiracy theories is that they are lacking hard evidence at best, and completely unfalsifiable at worst. And to throw another wrench in the machine, the term "conspiracy theory" is recently and presently becoming synonymous with "a thing a don't like".

Evidence, as always, is paramount to evaluating any truth claim made by anyone. Paranoia and confirmation bias always muddy these waters, but the most important person to be skeptical of is yourself first and foremost. It's easy to be skeptical of others because it's just a hardwired facet of self preservation and the human experience. It's daunting and often very unpleasant to be skeptical of yourself.
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Old 09-19-2020, 06:55 PM
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Evidence, as always, is paramount to evaluating any truth claim made by anyone.
I strongly disagree here. A key part of any intelligence campaign is deception, so it will never be easy to figure out exactly what is going on. Instead, it's much easier to simply look at the incentives of the key players. For example:

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Consider occam's razor and whether: (1) it really makes sense that there is some agenda to turn our country communist
Consider the average corrupt elite who wants to increase his power. If he has more, someone else must have less. Who will lose? The people who aren't organized and politically aligned. What is the end result? More and more power concentrated in fewer and fewer entities, whether they are big corporations, government agencies, Central Banks, or shadow crime families. Sound familiar? It's hard for me to discuss potential conspiracies to turn the US communist when it has obviously already happened!

The details, on the other hand, are much more difficult. Is Trump owned by the Mossad while Biden is owned by the CCP? Is Facebook owned by the NSA or the CIA? (note: remember Myspace? Some poor clown thought they could have a cool idea and build social media) Is there really only one organization underneath everything? Who knows. And I don't think it's that important. The important thing to realize is that:

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People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices.
And if Americans want to keep our republic we need to work together to tear down all of these government programs that are ostensibly for our benefit, but in practice only funnel money to the parasites. This is particularly difficult for the modern liberal to accept, because their natural mode is to try to acquire free resources from the system, not contribute to keep it together, and their strategy makes them the natural allies of the crime families. Personally I don't think it happens.
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