"We've weighed our options and...all we really lose is one Warrior" -Riot 2020

[LazyHydras]

Originally Posted by Pretzelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ask your buddy Teppler/Sinix about his podcast.

Not even sure who that is. Again I ask - are you ok? You seem mad.

[Hotel]

Originally Posted by Pretzelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ask your buddy Teppler/Sinix about his podcast.

LOL

he quit the game dude, thats twochains everytime you see that character you dunce

[Zipity]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I play on both, and raid on both. Literally every single thing about the endgame/raid scene is ten times more fun and interesting on blue than on green even on a bad day. Its no contest.

^^^^ agree with this 100%, socking just Naggy/Vox/CT/Inny is madness. Kunark will be a lot of fun though and add more things to the menu and another true Competitive raid zone in VP instead of just fear.

[Pretzelle]

Originally Posted by Hotel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

LOL

he quit the game dude, thats twochains everytime you see that character you dunce

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[Tuljin]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I play on both, and raid on both. Literally every single thing about the endgame/raid scene is ten times more fun and interesting on blue than on green even on a bad day. Its no contest.

I understand and "can't blame you" but...~~~rAiDiNg~~~ on p99 isn't even EQ anymore. "Classic" EQ was never about "end game," it was always about "the game." My question is largely rhetorical.

Its really amazing to me how many people are still going hard on a 10-year-old box. What's even more amazing to me is how many of these "characters" actually tried to roll Green then....went right on back to blue to do the same dumb ~~~~rAiD~~~~ shit.

I remember TwoChain in Green EC getting lvls on day one in /ooc and he just couldn't help but let everyone constantly know how much Blue dragon loot he had and how much he missed it. I knew that day he would eventually quit because the truth is (and this is true for many players currently "going hard" on Green) most people on p99 don't actually don't even -like- classic EQ.

I don't even know him and don't mean to make this into a jab but this is an easy example of the comedy of the "characters" that have been going hard on Blue for damn near a decade. Like...we're still talking about...Detoxx? rofl

Anyways, shit's just funny to me. People can continue to play the game "how they want" and I'll continue to chuckle about it lol

[Tunabros]

Good Old GUILD DRAMA

[Fammaden]

I mean to me man the most fun thing about green is leveling up one dude after another to 50, and also being able to do it in what would be considered garbage gear on blue. But a lot of people on blue already have every alt they ever wanted to make at 60 or far into the process, so that's not really appealing to everyone. But eventually you are max level and if you have investment and ties to blue already its a no brainer to play end game there instead.

As for "still talking about Detoxx" etc, drama has always been a major contributor to people's ties to end game EQ so you're answering your own questions with the stuff you're attempting to mock. Good guys, bad guys, in groups, out groups, manipulation, deceit, alliances, betrayals....these are all classic AF parts of non-instanced raiding. On green that all lasts for about 24 hours tops then its planar trash farms. On blue there's competitive raiding all week long. People like that shit, a lot of people, and they always have since the beginning.

As far as Kunark....I'm expecting the toxicity and lack of chill to reach unprecedented levels on green. Which might be pretty interesting if you have the right perspective on your pixel sickness, but there's a lot of people who will be more turned off than will be getting the raid scene improvement they are hoping for IMO.

[Psyborg]

Originally Posted by Dogma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well the math stacks against letting Detoxx join. Detoxx and maybe 10-12 cronies join vs 50 existing members leaving.

Net loss.

We're all nerds playing an old beaten non-classic game. It's not about pixels anymore imo. It's about enjoying the game with people you like and treating other people fairly and with respect. Detoxx has always been an epicenter for people who don't seem to follow those ideals.

Do you think it might have been worth it to let the app vote process take place for Detoxx instead of outright rejecting it? If the stories are to be trusted that is all that was being asked for.

[Tuljin]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean to me man the most fun thing about green is leveling up one dude after another to 50, and also being able to do it in what would be considered garbage gear on blue. But a lot of people on blue already have every alt they ever wanted to make at 60 or far into the process, so that's not really appealing to everyone. But eventually you are max level and if you have investment and ties to blue already its a no brainer to play end game there instead.

I also agree that the best part of EQ is actually playing the game (leveling toons and playing in garbage gear.) Really the launch of Green is "progression" as far as classic is concerned - we are all trying to go forward, not backwards.

You're not "wrong" and your answers/explanations are all correct and this -is- RnF so I need to rustle people a little bit.

Using words like "investment" when it comes to a videogame is exactly my point. Its a damn game. People can't "leave their stuff behind" to go play...the same fucking game but -actually- play it from the "beginning" and not with Game Genie. This is serious pixel sickness.

There is unprecented pixel sickness and general nonsense on Green but I foresee an implosion. People are gonna get sick of jumping through flaming hoops and staying up all night just so Phatez can get a Crown of Rile. There won't be enough loot to go around and people underestimate exactly how many nubs who play on Green simply won't be able to get to 60.

Also, on Green there's a lot of "play nice" stuff going on with guilds even when it comes to Sky at this point, so really we don't know what the ~~~~~~~~~~hhhhhhhhhhhhhrAiD sCeNe~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ will look like in Kunark.

The truth is - - - nobody has any fucking idea what will happen in Green Kunark and even the "important people" and "fat cats" are all just speculating. Maybe people will realize that without 5 years of Kunark and 5 years of Velious you won't be "guaranteed" shit and they'll finally stop chasing the carrot.

I never looked at it this way until now but at this point people like Blue because its predictable. People like routine. Sure if you ~~~rAiD~~~ then I can see how its more fun on Blue (its totally fucking stupid but whatever.) People like their shinies they "invested" in and have had for years and nobody is going to take them away and they're not going anywhere.

Anyways, yeah all this shit is still really funny to me lol

[Tuljin]

Originally Posted by Tuljin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I also agree that the best part of EQ is actually playing the game (leveling toons and playing in garbage gear.) Really the launch of Green is "progression" as far as classic is concerned - we are all trying to go forward, not backwards.

Should be "trying to go backwards, not forward" but yeah anyways, P99 Blue ~~~~~~~~rAiDiNg~~~~~~~~~ in 2020 (and into 2021) and still going hard is totally ridiculous