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Old 08-25-2020, 06:11 AM
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So would stacking HP on a Monk be better for soloing, rather than stats like str / agi, because a higher max HP would mean you could bind wound for more?
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Old 08-25-2020, 07:44 AM
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So would stacking HP on a Monk be better for soloing, rather than stats like str / agi, because a higher max HP would mean you could bind wound for more?
Technically yes but its not with the time gathering the items, levels are king. A naked 50 monk is more powerful than a level 40 with a bunch of hp items
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Old 08-25-2020, 06:37 AM
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Sorry I don't quite understand what you mean.

Are you saying that an SK with a Mith 2 Hander out damages a Monk from 1-40?

Or that you would be a surprised if an SK could out damage a Monk 1-40, even with a Mith 2 hander?

I have about 6-7k to twink a melee alt with, so a Mith 2 Hander is def. an option. Although, it might be a bad investment now since Kunark is soon right? Doesn't that item drop in a price by quite a lot, as soon as Kunark item are available?
Yes, i meant I would be surprised an SK couldn't outdamage a monk from at least 1 to 40 with mith because there isn't shit for monk weapons on green. Mith will probably go down a it but it will still hold some decent value longterm as enchanters an necros still use it. I frequently use it on my level 60 necro on blue.

Also, I'd be very careful factoring combat bind wounds into your long term plans. It has no place on p99 green or blue and could be gone any given day.
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Old 08-25-2020, 08:12 AM
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I have 50 sk, 50 monk, 22 Warrior, a bard, and rogue. Clearly the SK was first and not twinked. I gotta say of these on green. MONKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK is king solo.

SK could solo, had generally long times, but was safe bet(so when I couldn't get groups I solo'd a lot even 1-46, wasnt able to solo after that but truly probably could of done specs just early green GL getting that camp)

Monk was my first twink, not huge twink(no FBSS) but this toon could solo and did all the time. I grouped with friends/guildies a few times, but pretty much solo'd until 44(then finished 44-46 at paw/lucan farms) Monk was like super easier then SK, with instant FD, wp dmg that constantly got better(unlike my sk who had Shiny brass halbard until what 35?) Monks bindwound also better and mend. Had little down time with this class

Warrior(major twink even dragon loot, haste items etc), So far 1-22 solo has been ez peezy, but can't split mobs. So have had a few times where its gotten a little sketchy, but even low hp getting those crits that pretty much one shot mobs. If its solo pulls no real downtime, but if its multiples I gotta generally sit back bandage and let rubi BP do its job.

Rogue (twink but around 25 I had to find groups)

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Old 08-25-2020, 09:31 AM
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I have 50 sk, 50 monk, 22 Warrior, a bard, and rogue. Clearly the SK was first and not twinked. I gotta say of these on green. MONKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK is king solo.

SK could solo, had generally long times, but was safe bet(so when I couldn't get groups I solo'd a lot even 1-46, wasnt able to solo after that but truly probably could of done specs just early green GL getting that camp)

Monk was my first twink, not huge twink(no FBSS) but this toon could solo and did all the time. I grouped with friends/guildies a few times, but pretty much solo'd until 44(then finished 44-46 at paw/lucan farms) Monk was like super easier then SK, with instant FD, wp dmg that constantly got better(unlike my sk who had Shiny brass halbard until what 35?) Monks bindwound also better and mend. Had little down time with this class

Warrior(major twink even dragon loot, haste items etc), So far 1-22 solo has been ez peezy, but can't split mobs. So have had a few times where its gotten a little sketchy, but even low hp getting those crits that pretty much one shot mobs. If its solo pulls no real downtime, but if its multiples I gotta generally sit back bandage and let rubi BP do its job.

Rogue (twink but around 25 I had to find groups)

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Thanks for all the info! I have 2 questions for you though!


1) If your SK was average twinked (6-7k worth of gear, a Mithril 2 Hander weapon). How much closer in soloability would it be to your Monk?

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2) You mentioned Monks Bind Wound was better than the SKs? Whats the difference between them?
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Old 08-25-2020, 12:27 PM
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Thanks for all the info! I have 2 questions for you though!


1) If your SK was average twinked (6-7k worth of gear, a Mithril 2 Hander weapon). How much closer in soloability would it be to your Monk?

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2) You mentioned Monks Bind Wound was better than the SKs? Whats the difference between them?
Like someone said 2 SK caps vs monks. Yes Lifetaps are nice but no where near mana efficiency.

If the SK is twinked with Mt2h yeah I think It would pull closer to the monk. Some things to consider. Monks can split and fight w/o needing to move/kite and so able to do nice high ZEM dungeons. The SK truly needs to be able to fear kite. Which limits your camps you can do. Truly some areas SKs make it seem ez Fear kiting, but at same time even twinked our dps is lack luster compared to a monk. Our spells are great for utility but that is it, our dots our like lvl 12 necro dots. So killing slower then monk means your taking the same amount of dmg. Which monk generally recovers faster. Again tricks for SKs, is Life tap random greens if able, but then your mana starving yourself. Though SK can wear rubi BP if you currenlty have one(which I got mine on sk at 35 it helped, but trust me still doen't help enough)

Info on dmg My souleech BiS Planar geared SK vs Planared geared Monk the dmg isn't even comparable, I used to PL on SK all time for friends/guildies, Monk is gotta be 5x more effiencnt, taking less dmg, not mana starved, and self heals. Its insane the difference.

Also FYI if making SK plz pick DE(High int which SKs later on need the most, plus can self bind with ring of dead or Orge easier to cap 255 str super early, can carry more as your leveling aka free finesteel those flimsy wizzys cant carry, plus Frontal stun immunity people can say what they want. But when your tanking a planar mob or say Fire giants and need to FD split them, getting stunned while trying to FD. Can greatly increase your chance of dying(enjoy that xp penalty)
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Old 08-25-2020, 10:06 AM
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Sk caps out at 100 skill (about level 20). Monks go to 200. Also starting to cast a spell while bandaging will cause that attempt to bind wounds to fail.
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Old 08-25-2020, 10:52 AM
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SKs solo the easiest/hence biggest XP penalty
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Old 08-25-2020, 11:37 AM
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SKs solo the easiest/hence biggest XP penalty
By that logic Pallies would also solo better than monks.

Monks by a long way.
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Old 08-25-2020, 11:36 AM
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Cant split pulls as easy as monk, cant heal as fast since hp is huge and dont have the avoidance skills the monk does to not even get hit, have laughable dps compared to monk

Monks are broken
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