A Message from Lineage to the Green Community

[azeth]

Originally Posted by Shanetarin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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What exactly is an easy target to practice on once every 7 days with 5 targets that die within 15 minutes of pop?

You don't need a raid target to practice raiding. For example batphone a raid on a specific guard in Erudin. You're going to test your raiders ability to organize, form port groups, form smart groups, not attack until aggro is established, solo pull/clean pulls.

Every successful guild has done this or something similar to it periodically to make their team cohesive.

By your admission your guild is an under dog in terms of know how and skill - both of these things require work to correct.

[Coridan]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't need a raid target to practice raiding. For example batphone a raid on a specific guard in Erudin. You're going to test your raiders ability to organize, form port groups, form smart groups, not attack until aggro is established, solo pull/clean pulls.

Every successful guild has done this or something similar to it periodically to make their team cohesive.

By your admission your guild is an under dog in terms of know how and skill - both of these things require work to correct.

Raid Mayor Gubbin

[Lothisu]

Does Lineage have players from Blue who have experienced the blue raid scene?

[Keebz]

I personally don't think the UN is particularly good for smaller guilds. It severely limits the amount of loot available to your guild and shoehorns you into specific times. The bigger, stronger guilds already have their loot, and can secure larger/more time slots in the schedule. Meanwhile, night time slots aren't even getting cleared, while people awake during those hours don't contest, due to UN rules, further limiting loot available.

Nuggie mentioned something about "practicing" for competitive content, but the rotational content provides no competition and is not really the best way to learn how to FTE. Everyone just gets lulled into complacency of just showing up at some scheduled time, half-afking for DKP and maybe getting some planar.

I think the UN made a lot of sense when LR and Cryosilk was in game, and fear would have just been a shitshow 24/7 with out it. But at this point, the UN just keeps the big guilds in power, and the smaller guilds complacent. Some smaller guilds may be totally happy with this, of course. But I think the value proposition of the UN is somewhat contextual to the experiences and ambitions of the member guild.

Anyway, that is my rant, you are welcome to flame and disagree.

[fak]

Some lineage have, yes

[Lothisu]

Originally Posted by fak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some lineage have, yes

Hate to say it but if you're a new guild on green with little to no experience from the blue server raid scene you might as well just disband now or take what you can get out of this UN agreement until Kunark comes out with more raid content.

[Nuggie]

@Keebz, you're forum join date was 2010. Do you not recall classic/kunark being 95% being locked down by the "big" guild of the day? ST could do that now and are choosing not to even though they could. Acting like they're some horrible monster for choosing to not lock content down is unappreciative and is where the "welfare-pixel" tag gets thrown back in the direction of the casuals. "You people" could get none. Instead you get some and complain it's not enough.

[Keebz]

Originally Posted by Nuggie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Acting like they're some horrible monster for choosing to not lock content down is unappreciative and is where the "welfare-pixel" tag gets thrown back in the direction of the casuals. "You people" could get none. Instead you get some and complain it's not enough.

I never used those terms, but I see where you're coming from. Perhaps my qualms are more with the current state of the UN and its various agreements. I certainly don't mean to imply intent, or malice, or disparage ST or other guilds in any way. I merely wanted to express a sociological perspective on the nature of the power structure we have created. Specifically, I assess it as putting bounds on the upward mobility for the smaller guilds, which may or may not be an acceptable trade off in the eyes of the guild in question.

Originally Posted by Nuggie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you not recall classic/kunark being 95% being locked down by the "big" guild of the day? ST could do that now and are choosing not to even though they could.

It is definitely nicer in some regards this time around, but as far as 7 day targets are concerned, it does seem like the most powerful guild, ST, is getting a very large percentage of targets and is not open sharing outside of competitive FTE (which is understandable).

[fak]

Seal Team runs our server. From how you are talking it sounds like they are not as oppressive as Riot.

[RecondoJoe]

Originally Posted by fak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seal Team runs our server. From how you are talking it sounds like they are not as oppressive as Riot.

The funny part is anyone can join Seal Team if they want to. The reality is most people aren’t willing to put in the work to become part of their raid team.