Guise camp: go to bed

[edmazur]

Is there not actually a level 35 /list requirement for the guise camp? I'd read that on the wiki too and had assumed it to be true.

I'm a super casual ranger and am only at level 25...my goal has been to get to 35 in time to try to get a guise.

[Madae]

And this may be controversial, but I don't see a reason to remove it per classic item deletion rules either. Rubicite and Manastone sure, since the loot table is altered with Rubicite to Ravenscale, and Manastone just being a ridiculous item that never should have existed anyway, but guise is just a neat luxury item that is really only used for ultravision, imo. The reputation benefit isn't a big deal since there are plenty of ways to raise faction, most people ignore it in specific cases anyway, and it's not like it matters if you can enter Neriak or not.

[Madae]

I thought the idea of the list was a good idea when I first started here, but after experiencing it, I would much rather waste my time in a group getting something done and lose every single roll than have to sit in one spot doing pretty much nothing for 10 hours typing every 9 minutes to keep me in the list just so I can get the item... and 10 hours is generous, Manastone and Rubicite are not worth the amount of time it takes to get one.

[Tethler]

Originally Posted by Madae [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I thought the idea of the list was a good idea when I first started here, but after experiencing it, I would much rather waste my time in a group getting something done and lose every single roll than have to sit in one spot doing pretty much nothing for 10 hours typing every 9 minutes to keep me in the list just so I can get the item... and 10 hours is generous, Manastone and Rubicite are not worth the amount of time it takes to get one.

Some asshat would lock down the camp and sell loot rights before letting you in the group.

[Madae]

Originally Posted by Tethler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some asshat would lock down the camp and sell loot rights before letting you in the group.

I have no problem with that. I could spend my time somewhere else getting exp and making money to buy what I want instead of being forced to sit down and wait in a 10+ hour list doing nothing useful.

You really didn't see a lot of people locking down this camp specifically to sell loot rights on the TLP servers, but maybe that mentality would be different on P99, though. I suppose the big difference here is that you aren't allowed to box. Most TLP farmers were boxing to camp better items.

At any rate, list is really punishing to casual players. Maybe no one gives a shit about them, maybe most everyone on P99 are "hardcore", but there will still be a lot of people who will never get these items because of varying reasons.

[a_gnome_collector]

Got this on my rogue when teal was a thing. Took 2 hrs.

[reznor_]

Originally Posted by a_gnome_collector [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Got this on my rogue when teal was a thing. Took 2 hrs.

I hope you aren't a DE rogue. That is the only thing I have ever been salty about a list camp about, watching a DE rogue loot one (props to him for maximum troll, though).

Guise took me 4 hours total, over...2 or 3 sessions? I figured green+teal would merge again relatively quickly and so frontloaded my playtime to get a guise on my monk.

[Tethler]

Originally Posted by reznor_ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hope you aren't a DE rogue. That is the only thing I have ever been salty about a list camp about, watching a DE rogue loot one (props to him for maximum troll, though).

Guise took me 4 hours total, over...2 or 3 sessions? I figured green+teal would merge again relatively quickly and so frontloaded my playtime to get a guise on my monk.

If you loot one as a DE, does it change your face? I've been curious about that.

[reznor_]

Originally Posted by Tethler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you loot one as a DE, does it change your face? I've been curious about that.

Good question, I don't know. I stopped paying attention when he looted it and left because I was salty.

[reznor_]

(I didn't leave, he did!) Punctuation matters.