Greedy Wizards and Druids

[Wallicker]

Originally Posted by Wallicker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or you can send a tell saying will tip x amount for port from A to B. The porter will accept or decline.

Ex. “Hey, would you mind porting me from NK to BB, I will Pay you 5pp (insert excuse here ).”

- after this sentence apparently only a rocket scientist could come up with, within seconds you will know if you are getting a port from said Druid AND you will have eliminated all ambiguity bc they will next do 1 of 3 things.

1) Druid says “sure, On my way!” Or “sure, I have two ports ahead of you’”
2) Druid says “sorry, that tip is too small (or some rude remark in which is great RNF mat).
3) Silence

If you are polite and use the setup above I guarantee within asking 3 druids you will have your port. And all parties will have already agreed upon your cheapass rate and no one will get butthurt. Be wary of tipping like a cheapass consistently though as your deeds may spread. Hope this helps.

[Smellybuttface]

Donation, by definition, is a gratuity that doesn’t in itself require to pay anything. A “tip” on the other hand implies that some amount be given, though not clearly delineated.

Porters are just as much to blame when asking for something and not getting what they’re “unspoken” reserve is. The reason they ask for tips and not a straight amount is that they’re HOPING they get considerably more than what they’d charge. They’re not being altruistic, they’re providing a service and hoping for a big payout, but have to balance that with sometime accepting less.

If the porter simply asked for a donation or tip, it’s not OP’s fault the amount wasn’t acceptable to the porter. They can either ask for a flat rate, or ask for a tip. Flat rate guarantees they make a certain amount, tip means they could end up making much more at the risk of making less. Both have advantages, but it’s on them to set the terms. Not the one asking for a port.

There are ‘recommended’ amounts to give (1pp per level) but that’s just a custom, and not set in stone.

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by Smellybuttface [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Donation, by definition, is a gratuity that doesn’t in itself require to pay anything. A “tip” on the other hand implies that some amount be given, though not clearly delineated.

Porters are just as much to blame when asking for something and not getting what they’re “unspoken” reserve is. The reason they ask for tips and not a straight amount is that they’re HOPING they get considerably more than what they’d charge. They’re not being altruistic, they’re providing a service and hoping for a big payout, but have to balance that with sometime accepting less.

If the porter simply asked for a donation or tip, it’s not OP’s fault the amount wasn’t acceptable to the porter. They can either ask for a flat rate, or ask for a tip. Flat rate guarantees they make a certain amount, tip means they could end up making much more at the risk of making less. Both have advantages, but it’s on them to set the terms. Not the one asking for a port.

There are ‘recommended’ amounts to give (1pp per level) but that’s just a custom, and not set in stone.

We get it, you're cheap as shit and looking for any semantic reason to stiff people.

Every last one of you "well they shouldn't say DONATION then huurrrrr" fuckwads knows damn well they are doing it trying to make money. Its fake ass pixel cash, just give the fucker some of it for the convenience of being ported. Get over yourselves.

[Smellybuttface]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We get it, you're cheap as shit and looking for any semantic reason to stiff people.

Every last one of you "well they shouldn't say DONATION then huurrrrr" fuckwads knows damn well they are doing it trying to make money. Its fake ass pixel cash, just give the fucker some of it for the convenience of being ported. Get over yourselves.

Words have meaning. I don’t stiff anytime I get ported, but if they’re looking for something specific then they can damn well say what the fuck they’re asking for.

[Madae]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Get over yourselves.

Whew... Epic entitlement there, buddy.

[cd288]

1 pp per level = absurd expectation for lowbies to pay

[ldgo86]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1 pp per level = absurd expectation for lowbies to pay

For a first character on a server and completely new to EQ, yeah, 9p at level 9 is a lot. I don’t buy that for most people tho. On any character you could have 10p to spare if you did any research on quests and such in any starting area. Even Halas area has white bear pelts people want and will pay for, those drop from lv 2 bears.

When I first started I figured out what could be done pretty quick to accumulate plat at a low level.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by ldgo86 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For a first character on a server and completely new to EQ, yeah, 9p at level 9 is a lot. I don’t buy that for most people tho. On any character you could have 10p to spare if you did any research on quests and such in any starting area. Even Halas area has white bear pelts people want and will pay for, those drop from lv 2 bears.

When I first started I figured out what could be done pretty quick to accumulate plat at a low level.

Some people on the server get enjoyment from the game without trying to min/max everything, including how much plat they are making.

[alsa]

I think the main problem here is people want to have it both ways.

By not stating how much they charge per port, there's the chance that some people will over pay, and they do. So in this case, porter will happily accept the extra payment and feels good about themselves. But the risk is that by not stating how much you want for your service, there are times people does not value your time and your service as much as you value them and we have the problem here.

How to fix that? Well easy, just like many people already said, just tell people how much you expected to be paid. But doing that would mean that those future "big tippers" will just pay the standard asked amount. But that's the risk for that.

You can't have it both ways.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by alsa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the main problem here is people want to have it both ways.

By not stating how much they charge per port, there's the chance that some people will over pay, and they do. So in this case, porter will happily accept the extra payment and feels good about themselves. But the risk is that by not stating how much you want for your service, there are times people does not value your time and your service as much as you value them and we have the problem here.

How to fix that? Well easy, just like many people already said, just tell people how much you expected to be paid. But doing that would mean that those future "big tippers" will just pay the standard asked amount. But that's the risk for that.

You can't have it both ways.

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