The great merge of 2020

[Jubal]

Originally Posted by Frug [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Primetime *wednesday*. FWIW, that wednesday peaked at 1150. The previous wednesday's high was 1248.

I'm using /who all count as a player count - it appears you're using the server list number which counts players at character select and often gives an inflated number. Either way both show another 100 player drop from the previous week which was already showing a 400-500 drop from the combined teal+green primetime populations.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Fawqueue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He states a long-term concern of what would happen to the server with a large population (1500-2000) pre-Kunark. At the time I ask this, we're at 1200...and that's with the overall totals taking a hit due to frustrations over the merge. Additionally, not only are we still pre-kunark but we don't even have all of Classic available. I think the community understands how much you all do, and values and respects your decisions. I think many of us are simply curious why now, so suddenly, when it appears we are still within the parameters that was initially deemed to be problematic and warranting of a second server.

He states that 1500-2k is a large population. You mention we're averaging 1,200 at prime time. And then you say we're within the parameters that were deemed problematic...how? You literally just quoted numbers that show we're not within Rogean's parameters lol.

Originally Posted by Symbioticforks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah nobody was complaining there weren't enough people online. Nobody. So let's just double the load for all camps, because waiting in line and clicking a box every 10 minutes for 3 days needs to be doubled.

Plenty of people did. Guess you must have missed it.

[Fawqueue]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He states that 1500-2k is a large population. You mention we're averaging 1,200 at prime time. And then you say we're within the parameters that were deemed problematic...how? You literally just quoted numbers that show we're not within Rogean's parameters lol.

I noted that it was 1200 at prime time WITH the servers having lost active players due to the frustration over the merge. We were at roughly 1500 combined between both servers. That was within the parameters when they chose to merge them.

[Llandris]

Originally Posted by Fawqueue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and that's with the overall totals taking a hit due to frustrations over the merge.

It could be frustration, or could be those players that were playing green/teal at the same time.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Llandris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It could be frustration, or could be those players that were playing green/teal at the same time.

Agreed. Seems like a pretty big stretch by that commenter to say that a couple hundred people lost means people quit due to the merge. Some, at least, were probably not unique accounts and were playing both simultaneously.

Some may be waiting till Kunark to return due to the merge, sure, but not all.

The amount of people we supposedly "lost" post-merge is too small to make any conclusions about why. We also don't truly know that we lost anybody. Many people play P99 casually and inconsistently. All couple hundred of those people could still be playing (or planning to continue playing) and just all haven't logged on at the same time and/or at prime time. Only, I assume, Rogean and Nilbog know for sure and anything anyone else says is entirely uninformed speculation.

[Corbin]

I don't think it's a stretch. Personal experience suggests a significant number of players will stop playing due to the merge. My wife and a few friends we met on Teal have indicated a desire to stop playing post merge. However, this number is probably not "significant" for either success of the project or the enjoyment of many other players on Green.

Of course the "meta" on P99 doesn't suit the play style of those disenchanted folk, despite the fact they still love the old school content. So, I think long term retention of those players was questionable to begin with. We know the development cycle on live that attempted to address those problems. Too bad about the loss of charm in content design and character development which paralleled those changes (imo).

Blue sounds like it's in a better place now for these players, but it fails to offer classic progression in appropriate context (content wise) and is hardly shiny and new by contrast. I may try to get the wife to explore there with me casually[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] TAKP seems like a good spot for some, if they don't mind boxing, Luclin and POK.

I have met a lot of nice people on P99 over the years. However, the vibe and community are wholly different when you approach contested content. This is where most end up and I think the community is self selecting based upon that aforementioned "meta". The logical extension of unbridled classic perhaps?

My wife and I largely missed classic on live and this is a great place to learn about it, thorns and all. Ty all [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Algustus]

I just want to add my thanks to the volunteers that keep this all going for us. You rock!

[Symbioticforks]

Yeah nobody was complaining there weren't enough people online. Nobody. So let's just double the load for all camps, because waiting in line and clicking a box every 10 minutes for 3 days needs to be doubled.

[Frug]

> This should have been better communicated to the players,

Which is to say, communicated to the players. Like, at all.

[Llandris]

Originally Posted by Frug [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

> This should have been better communicated to the players,

Which is to say, communicated to the players. Like, at all.

Technically it was, via patch notes. Do you have some issue with P99 staff? Seems like you take a shot at us every chance you get.