Chanter charming

[Bazia]

somehow made 6 posts in a row without a singular point

must be a record

[enjchanter]

Honestly not sure what to tell you man. Its very obvious that enchanters are very powerful compared to all other classes.

In classic, you're going to struggle with not having any way to sufficiently gain hp / mana / cha in harmony. So that basically means youre going to struggle with 2 of 3 three things.

1) Low charisma meaning your charm breaks will be frequent (level disparity at that camp at 50 will be horrible.)

2) Low mana means youre going to have a tough time getting resisted on slows , hasting pets, keeping buffs up and recharming on breaks.

3) Probably the least of the 3 concerns because hopefully mana is one thing you can actually accumulate somehow but a hasted pet is gunna really hurt your classic geared enc with maybe 1k?


Low level charm is just everything listed above but compounded by having even less resources. Charming is doable and yes its great but if we are just going to assume that everything goes perfectly and charm never breaks at a bad time or a stun gets resisted then we dont even need to have a conversation.

The impression im getting right now is that people seem to think that enchanters just charm the toughest mob next to them and then afk while that mob farms xp for them. In classic , i highly doubt enchanters are going to be charming blue cons in groups with their 150 charisma and 587 hp.

Anyone who plays an enchanter knows that it goes one of two ways:

Either everything goes perfectly or everything goes wrong.

The high end camps , i predict, will be prime examples of everything goes right, or everything goes wrong.

[Siege]

Originally Posted by enjchanter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In classic , i highly doubt enchanters are going to be charming blue cons in groups with their 150 charisma and 587 hp.

They're doing it, and they're dropping like flies. I've seen more Enchanter deaths than any other class, and it's almost always due to an inopportune Charm break and/or a string of Charm resists.

[enjchanter]

Okay so the above 2 posts sum up my point
Nice !

[TripSin]

Originally Posted by Siege [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They're doing it, and they're dropping like flies. I've seen more Enchanter deaths than any other class, and it's almost always due to an inopportune Charm break and/or a string of Charm resists.

This. Chanters, in my experience, even good ones, are still by far the most likely to die in groups. Nature of the job. With great power comes great responsibility.

[Tethler]

Originally Posted by Siege [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They're doing it, and they're dropping like flies. I've seen more Enchanter deaths than any other class, and it's almost always due to an inopportune Charm break and/or a string of Charm resists.

A lot of people aren't connecting the dots with lower-level chanter charming and available gear. They are used to being able to heavily twink on blue and expect green/teal chanters to perform the same wearing rags. Was in a sola group and some of the members were constantly ragging on the enchanter for not getting a charm pet (despite having downtime due to lack of spawns, but that's another topic entirely). Enchanter gets a pet and over the next hour dies twice to charm breaks and people hitting the mob when chanter tried to mez/recharm.

Enchanters can do amazing things, but classic gearing options also means that the margin for error is a lot smaller than people are accustomed to.

[Tecmos Deception]

Well two months of chanter/charm banter on the forums has accomplished one thing, if nothing else. It's tricked me into making a chanter on green/teal sooner than I had planned on (which was never).

[enjchanter]

I mean i almost hate to even chime in on enchanter topics because it basically just boils down to people complaining that enchanters are too strong / i can easily solo x and you cant because y / eq is an easy game so were all losers for playing it

[Bazia]

idk i farmed tons of freeti boots in classic on red, the fact you can levi run to zl on crit resists trivializes the risks of breaking in almost completely

bring a cleric so you can keep one pet and it's even more trivial

meanwhile no other class can solo the camp, im also fairly certain any duo without an enc cant clear the camp

so there's some nice context for enc power levels, a *competent* enc can solo freeti fairly simply meanwhile no duo of non encs in the game can farm the camp

[waltjig]

Originally Posted by Bazia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

idk i farmed tons of freeti boots in classic on red, the fact you can levi run to zl on crit resists trivializes the risks of breaking in almost completely

bring a cleric so you can keep one pet and it's even more trivial

meanwhile no other class can solo the camp, im also fairly certain any duo without an enc cant clear the camp

so there's some nice context for enc power levels, a *competent* enc can solo freeti fairly simply meanwhile no duo of non encs in the game can farm the camp

Wait, there are lvl 50 enchanters soloing a lvl 50 wizard mob in classic? Someone post some videos of a lvl 50 enchanter actually soloing that camp. That’s impressive as fuck to even get a lucky kill on an even con casting mob. And by the way you are crying, no way you EVER soloed this camp even on your 60 enchanter