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Old 11-16-2019, 02:26 PM
ilgart112 ilgart112 is offline
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Its about having fun not about getting loot. The current system is just not fun imo. Sitting in a line and or zerg with mouth breathing zerglings. I dont plan on doing any green/teal raiding its just super lame. you would have to be some kind of psychopath to enjoy the current zerg system. was a fun few weeks getting to 50 to shortly relive the eq experience.

to the staff you coded an amazing server, I just cant wait for you all to be ready to take things to the next level for the hardcore players.

ill be waiting for the next pvp experience.
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Old 11-16-2019, 02:34 PM
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Its about having fun not about getting loot. The current system is just not fun imo. Sitting in a line and or zerg with mouth breathing zerglings. I dont plan on doing any green/teal raiding its just super lame. you would have to be some kind of psychopath to enjoy the current zerg system. was a fun few weeks getting to 50 to shortly relive the eq experience.

to the staff you coded an amazing server, I just cant wait for you all to be ready to take things to the next level for the hardcore players.

ill be waiting for the next pvp experience.
2nd that.
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Old 11-16-2019, 07:31 PM
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Its about having fun not about getting loot. The current system is just not fun imo. Sitting in a line and or zerg with mouth breathing zerglings. I dont plan on doing any green/teal raiding its just super lame. you would have to be some kind of psychopath to enjoy the current zerg system. was a fun few weeks getting to 50 to shortly relive the eq experience.

to the staff you coded an amazing server, I just cant wait for you all to be ready to take things to the next level for the hardcore players.

ill be waiting for the next pvp experience.
Yeah, see you at the manastone camp every damn day.
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Old 11-16-2019, 02:34 PM
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The thing is that the percentage of people who are going to have to deal with rules lawyering or manastone camping is pretty low. So PVP 'fixing' those aspects of the game is too high of a price to pay for most people.

In the end I think for your average MMO PVP is about as popular as high end crafting or other really niche things, but it does well on twitch so it gets more attention from devs than it would in an otherwise fair system. There is always a really loud minority shouting for PVP but none of the really PVP focused things have much of a lifetime because it really relies on blackmailing people who hate PVP into joining up with some promise of a more perfect experience.

Two great examples I can think of are Tera where people clamored for PVP prior to level 45 (which was when pvp started on ktera) it of course was a mess of low level ganking because nothing about sub 45 stats was balanced for PVP and all the low level maps were awful choke points. Another one was some popular PVP streamer asking for open PVP in FFXIV of all places, which would have the same issues of choke point rich maps and stats that simply aren't designed for open PVP.

I'm willing to believe EQ PVP is somewhat different, but I've seen the same thing out of PVP'ers for years, it is the alpha and omega, it is the solution to every problem, it is the most enjoyable mode. Which is true for some people but not most. As if the crazy people who are asserting control through rules lawyering and superior numbers will somehow find themselves disadvantaged while PVP flagged.
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Old 11-16-2019, 03:12 PM
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There would be other ways to do it. Spawn vox/naggy by devs for other guilds. Of course would need to make sure seal team members are not members of that other guild.
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Old 11-16-2019, 03:30 PM
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Dere must be consideration paid dat many squishies who charge dragon entitled to da dragon loots. It like when froglock pile atop troll in da swamp. It not gud or fair, but it work!
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Old 11-16-2019, 03:59 PM
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Problem: It's not fair that 35 people are hogging the pixels for themselves.

Solution: Only allow 20 people to get those pixels by restricting guild sizes.
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Old 11-16-2019, 04:15 PM
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Only velious has enough content for multiple raid guilds. And only with a healthy supply of quakes, or long FTE lockouts. Otherwise it's an uninstanced game and you better join the top guild and start saving DKP.
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Old 11-16-2019, 07:42 PM
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Easier solution is place a agro list limit on a mob. hit that limit, that person is removed from the zone (kinda like agroing vox/naggy on a lvl 53+ on blue) Problem solved. The only question remains is, how many is enough in classic?????
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Old 11-16-2019, 07:49 PM
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What is wrong with a zerg? Not like the dragons drop loot according to how many people are there. Same amount of loot, just more backs to clothe.
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