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Old 11-04-2019, 12:07 PM
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Basically the only complaint 80-90% of people really had about blue was how top heavy it was. A minority of players had lots of accounts, lots of alts, lots of plat and gear. They dominated all the raid content to the point the casual folks never got to see it, finish epics, etc. They uber twinked alts and disrupted the low-level grouping gameplay. Etc.

Splitting green, allowing boxing, and then merging will give the same sort of people who made blue top heavy an extra mechanic to take advantage of to bring about a similar state of affairs on green even faster than it would come about anyways.

You're right, it won't. Pre-merge it doesn't matter, and post you can't play both chars at the same time.

And let's take it from the other direction; do you think prohibiting boxing will prevent *ANY* of that? Really? Given the people that would do it to provide those alleged downsides would do it anyway. It'll be slower, ... maybe? (as yet unproven), but you mentioned it happened on blue, so ...
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Old 11-04-2019, 12:43 PM
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I don't. Go slow, I'm old. What about doing even maximum 2-boxing with Teal/Green *actually* hurts anything in any meaningful sense, other than "its something I think shouldn't happen".
If you're referring to economics, to me the biggest concern is duplication of plat. Now, I'm obviously not saying that an eventual Green server merged back with Teal will be like Blue inflation level after a year of being separate. But there's certainly an ability to farm lots of plat in the pre-Kunark area through a multitude of cash camps (to say nothing of the camps that aren't necessarily in the top tier of cash camps, but also supply a decent amount).

Since EQ is of course an old game, there aren't really many money sinks at all since the devs never thought of it and didn't anticipate the game even being around enough for inflation to be a big problem. I think anything that moves us further down the road to inflation faster than we otherwise would is simply a bad thing overall.
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Old 11-04-2019, 12:45 PM
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If you're referring to economics, to me the biggest concern is duplication of plat. Now, I'm obviously not saying that an eventual Green server merged back with Teal will be like Blue inflation level after a year of being separate. But there's certainly an ability to farm lots of plat in the pre-Kunark area through a multitude of cash camps (to say nothing of the camps that aren't necessarily in the top tier of cash camps, but also supply a decent amount).

Since EQ is of course an old game, there aren't really many money sinks at all since the devs never thought of it and didn't anticipate the game even being around enough for inflation to be a big problem. I think anything that moves us further down the road to inflation faster than we otherwise would is simply a bad thing overall.
If blue continued and green/teal didn't happen...a lot of players would be farming plat on blue anyway, inflation overall doesn't stop. Have some perspective. I'm now farming plat on green instead of blue, and my characters roll into the blue economy in 980ish days.

If you're some blue tunnel fat cat concerned about his plat hoard, your currency is already dead.
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Old 11-04-2019, 12:50 PM
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If blue continued and green/teal didn't happen...a lot of players would be farming plat on blue anyway, inflation overall doesn't stop. Have some perspective. I'm now farming plat on green instead of blue, and my characters roll into the blue economy in 980ish days.

If you're some blue tunnel fat cat concerned about his plat hoard, your currency is already dead.
I'm poor as shit on Blue. I'm not really concerned about what happens if Green merges with Blue down the road. I'm more concerned about the health of the new server over the next 4-5 years before we see a merge into Blue.

I'm not a tunnel quester. I have no intent of listing for any legacy items. I might do J Boots since it seems like it might be easier than camping the AC lol, but other than that I'm not trying to like defend some prestige items or plat hoard I'm trying to get. The more plat comes into the system, the more inflation you have and the more things start to cost, which makes it harder for non-neckbeard plat farmers to be able to afford things.
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Old 11-03-2019, 11:50 PM
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Should be easy to have somebody put a character on teal and see if he can login to green and play a character and let us know.There is nothing like personal experience.
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Old 11-03-2019, 11:54 PM
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Should be easy to have somebody put a character on teal and see if he can login to green and play a character and let us know.There is nothing like personal experience.
No one is speculating about this
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Old 11-04-2019, 11:42 AM
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Can a staff member confirm if boxing on green and teal is going to be allowed? Letting folks double down in manabone list seems retarded.
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Old 11-04-2019, 12:16 PM
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Can a staff member confirm if boxing on green and teal is going to be allowed? Letting folks double down in manabone list seems retarded.
Not staff but i am doing it right now its allowed
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Old 11-04-2019, 12:26 PM
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you guys are complaining about this but we have always been able to do this Can play red and blue at the same time no issues can play green and blue at the same time can play red and green at the sametime when teal merges with green It wont allow boxing
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Old 11-04-2019, 12:54 PM
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you guys are complaining about this but we have always been able to do this Can play red and blue at the same time no issues can play green and blue at the same time can play red and green at the sametime when teal merges with green It wont allow boxing
Yeah. You're so right. Boxing on red and blue, one PVP and one PVE, which will never be merged, is the same as boxing on teal and green, which are both PVE and in a short timeline and which will merge together in the future.

And not being able to box once they merge will magically undo the creation of items, plat, and alts the moment the merge happens. Of course. How could I be so stupid?
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