Green should disallow GINA

[Dolalin]

Originally Posted by AbstractVision [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What makes GINA different from the old log parsers is that it overlays essentially augmenting P99. When you can cast mez on six different targets and different times throughout the fight and know when each one of those is going to break down to the exact second, yes thats an unfair advantage.

[workbench]

Why stop at not using GINA? Personally, I think when you classic, you should be wearing corduroys and this shirt:

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[loramin]

Originally Posted by Ashenden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love that when people disagree with a change they take it to the absolute extreme via things like resolution and internet speed to try and make it sound dumb.

Is there a name for that kind of argument?

Originally Posted by Izmael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum
is the closest I can think of.

I believe this is correct. In the more general sense you could say that someone making such an argument is making a "straw man" argument, but the specific kind of straw man would be one based on Reductio ad absurdum.

And before anyone tries to argue, I'm not trying to say that it never makes sense to use extremes in a debate. Of course that can be a valid rhetorical technique, sometimes, ie. when:

Originally Posted by https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum

it builds on assertions which are actually present in the argument it is deconstructing, and not when it misrepresents them as a straw man. For example, any creationist argument that takes the form of "if evolution were real, we'd see fish turning into monkeys and monkeys turning into people all the time" only serves to ridicule itself, since it mischaracterises the theory of evolution to an extreme degree.

[Ashenden]

Maybe whataboutism? "You think this change should be more classical, but what about x y and z that aren't realistically changeable!"

[Donkey Hotay]

Originally Posted by AbstractVision [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

. . . yes thats an unfair advantage.

Over whom? People who want to pretend this isn't a game that outputs a log? People who can't install patches without making a thread in Server Chat for help? People who like being asked for buff refreshes because it's the only conversation they'll get today?

[Muggens]

Originally Posted by Chortles Snort|eS [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

HEAL NOW
YOU HAS AGGRO
BUFFS FADED
ALERT ALERT
NO CLASSIC

[Dolalin]

Originally Posted by Ashenden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe whataboutism? "You think this change should be more classical, but what about x y and z that aren't realistically changeable!"

Yes, it's whataboutery.

[Ashenden]

Originally Posted by Donkey Hotay [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Over whom?

People who don't have overlayed timer bars and text popups and text to speech for malo landing, OOS landing, slow duration, DT window countdown, CH chain visualization to cover gaps with clickies, charm break alerts, resist alerts, invis fading alerts, CT spawn shout alerts, enrage alerts and timers, CC durations and early break alerts, DOT durations, snare durations. Every aspect of Ring War.

We get it, you use GINA and or ZlizEQMap and or nParse and don't want to not use GINA and or ZlizEQMap and or nParse.

[Donkey Hotay]

Originally Posted by Ashenden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We get it, you use GINA and or ZlizEQMap and or nParse and don't want to not use GINA and or ZlizEQMap and or nParse.

Yeah, I put the time into learning how to do a simple computing task using a tool freely provided for the purpose. Isn't this part of the skillz I keep hearing this game takes?

[Baler]

I don't get why people get so upset over what other people use.
It doesn't affect you. If you're a better person/player without that stuff fine.
But don't talk shit.

If you believe in your mind of minds that Gina, ZlizEQMap and Gamparser makes the playfield unfair. You have nobody but yourself to blame. Don't be throwing a fuckin pity party for yourself and demand other people live your righteous path.

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