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Old 10-08-2019, 10:04 AM
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We’ll make sure this is working for Bane spells, if not we'll get it fixed.
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Old 10-08-2019, 11:32 AM
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Unresistable spells never required belly casting to my knowledge, because they skipped the Resist check phase of spell casting where Belly Casting would be assessed.

To this day belly casting mobs on Live EQ can be Tash and Malo’d from range for example.

Is there some patch note I’ve missed indicating a change in this mechanic?

The issue I noticed on P99 with belly casting wasn’t with Unresistable spells working but instead with hate being generated on mobs when you would cast or click items out of belly range. Those spells cast out of range should be immediately resisted and generate essentially 0 aggro.
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Old 10-08-2019, 11:39 AM
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Unresistable spells never required belly casting to my knowledge, because they skipped the Resist check phase of spell casting where Belly Casting would be assessed.

To this day belly casting mobs on Live EQ can be Tash and Malo’d from range for example.

Is there some patch note I’ve missed indicating a change in this mechanic?

The issue I noticed on P99 with belly casting wasn’t with Unresistable spells working but instead with hate being generated on mobs when you would cast or click items out of belly range. Those spells cast out of range should be immediately resisted and generate essentially 0 aggro.
The discussion initially came up discussing how mana drain spells should work on belly casters.
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Old 10-08-2019, 12:10 PM
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Unresistable spells never required belly casting to my knowledge, because they skipped the Resist check phase of spell casting where Belly Casting would be assessed.

To this day belly casting mobs on Live EQ can be Tash and Malo’d from range for example.

Is there some patch note I’ve missed indicating a change in this mechanic?

The issue I noticed on P99 with belly casting wasn’t with Unresistable spells working but instead with hate being generated on mobs when you would cast or click items out of belly range. Those spells cast out of range should be immediately resisted and generate essentially 0 aggro.
If this should be the case, please make a bug thread with in era evidence. There’s been limited research, but there have been raid guides and comments found calling for enchanters to be within melee range to cast their unresistable spells with no mention of exceptions.
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Old 10-08-2019, 12:39 PM
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If this should be the case, please make a bug thread with in era evidence. There’s been limited research, but there have been raid guides and comments found calling for enchanters to be within melee range to cast their unresistable spells with no mention of exceptions.
Here is a discussion from the live TLP servers. https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/...-strat.258547/

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Couple things to note:
- Trakanon, as with all Kunark dragons, is a belly caster - meaning to land spells you have to be on top of him and cannot cast on him from range unless the spell is unresistable(tash/malo)
Of course not sure when in the server progression this takes place, so I'll try to nail it down more definite.

Here is the Magician Raid Guide:

https://chillmode.gamerlaunch.com/fo...php?t=11735695

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You have two swarm pet spells which can be used at range regardless of the belly caster issue and do a significant amount of damage but will empty your mana pool rapidly.These are

1) Dyzil's deafening decoy

2)Rage of Zomm
https://www.takproject.net/forums/in...estions.12624/

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Unresistable spells however generate full aggro because they don’t require being in Melee range to land. So for example a Tash from a chanter, Malo from a shaman or Dragon Bane from a wizard would all generate full aggro.

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He and a lot of other Kunark/Velious dragons are belly-casters. Meaning you need to be in melee range to land most spells on him. Tash only landed because it's unresistable.

going to go through the patch notes to see if this was in from launch
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Old 10-08-2019, 01:13 PM
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Here is a discussion from the live TLP servers. https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/...-strat.258547/



Of course not sure when in the server progression this takes place, so I'll try to nail it down more definite.

Here is the Magician Raid Guide:

https://chillmode.gamerlaunch.com/fo...php?t=11735695



https://www.takproject.net/forums/in...estions.12624/




http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=4503&p=4

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going to go through the patch notes to see if this was in from launch
This is good stuff, but please post it in the bug forum so it’s documented properly.
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Old 10-08-2019, 12:41 PM
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So the Z axis issues are fixed now? Is it safe to go into Velks again?
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Old 10-08-2019, 12:48 PM
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Haynar: When illusions are applied, updated the size when a client playable race is used.

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