Do you like hybrids having an xp penalty?

[Gustoo]

Classic is going to be classic I'm cringing so hard at the thought of someone thinking their gunna unclassic the hybrid penalty.

Also cringing hard at that 5 percent slowing you down to level 50 then to 60. It's classic man literally your 20 years late to level 50 who cares how long it takes your toon???

[Gustoo]

Please move to resolved I will delete all my manastones if there was even a 1 percent chance that staff would intensionally not have classic exp build out.

Oh they should move halfling bonus to humans like was originally intended too.

[Fammaden]

If they are going to retroactively fix that mistake then they should retroactively apply other nerfs, like removing guise/manastone etc. from the game on day one. Otherwise you are being too inconsistent and that's a bad look.

The hybrid penalty makes zero sense and accomplishes basically nothing for the game, but I understand the position they are in with it.

[Videri]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If they are going to retroactively fix that mistake then they should retroactively apply other nerfs, like removing guise/manastone etc. from the game on day one. Otherwise you are being too inconsistent and that's a bad look.

The hybrid penalty makes zero sense and accomplishes basically nothing for the game, but I understand the position they are in with it.

Here's the thing, though. That mistake was fixed at a certain point in the classic timeline. That's why it will be fixed here, at the same point in the Green timeline.

[Copout]

They've already got the loot list that isn't classic. I'm not necessarily saying they should remove the hybrid penalty, but that is a big precedent for altering the classic state of affairs. Let's not lose sight of why they made that change though. The loot list removes the incentive for sufficiently determined people to hog what ever camps are to be listed. If enough camps got hogged, it's possible to envision a situation where many people get frustrated and quit, feeling they can't accomplish anything worthwhile in game. A little bit of classic anarchy is sacrificed in the name of making the game playable for the gainfully employed.

So, following the reasoning which led to that change, the question is: will the hybrid xp penalty result in a substantial number of people not playing who would otherwise play? Probably not. The penalty is stupid and painful and a big waste of everyone's time, but no one is going to walk because of the hybrid penalty. That being said, I think it would be LESS inconsistent to remove the hybrid xp penalty than it would be to remove guise/manastones because you know a substantial number of people wouldn't bother playing if cool limited time items weren't included.

[Llandris]

Be grateful you don't have to wait 8 years for the penalty to be removed

[Deathrydar]

I completely respect the developers of this server for what they have accomplished! They are great!

But what would it hurt to remove that experience penalty? I believe we would have nothing to lose and everything to gain. There would be a more variety of races and classes and less min/maxing.

I don't believe they are going to remove it, as they are keeping this classic as hell, but I do agree that the experience penalties are weak and do nothing good for the game. They don't make it more difficult and they don't make it more fun, and they don't add anything to it, they just make it............corny! Why keep a bug in the game if it was already a confirmed bug?

Yes I am aware that it is not a "bug" per se, but the Verant developers stated that it was not what they intended.

My 2 copper.

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by Llandris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Be grateful you don't have to wait 8 years for the penalty to be removed

When's the penalty lift though? Two months into Velious right? So almost two years into a three year cycle, the vast majority of time hybrids are unfairly held down. So compared to the eight out of ten years so far on blue you'll have even less time to enjoy a hybrid, not counting the fact that you can play them without penalty on blue forever.

I accept the project's goals and understand it staying in being a totally valid classic quirk, but it does feel pretty absurd to do this to those classes. Except bards, raise it to 80% on bards.

[Deathrydar]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When's the penalty lift though? Two months into Velious right? So almost two years into a three year cycle, the vast majority of time hybrids are unfairly held down.

Hybrids lives matter!

[Jibartik]

I mean if I can see while I meditate it only seems fair... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]